Do You Really Need a Full-Time CMO? | Why Fractional Leadership Wins in 2025 with Chad Jardine

Nov 20, 2025 · 53m 22s
Do You Really Need a Full-Time CMO? | Why Fractional Leadership Wins in 2025 with Chad Jardine
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Host Michelle, sits down with Chad Jardine, the founder of CMO Zen. Together, they discuss the world of fractional leadership and why more companies are turning to part-time executives for...

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Host Michelle, sits down with Chad Jardine, the founder of CMO Zen. Together, they discuss the world of fractional leadership and why more companies are turning to part-time executives for increased efficiency in their businesses. Their conversation highlights how quick strategic support can help early-stage companies grow out of fragile phases faster than traditional hiring models. 

Michelle and Chad talk about the realities of building a fractional firm. With real-life stories, they highlight the importance of acting quickly on good ideas and intentionally designing a business that supports both clients and founders. This episode is packed with practical strategies, honest reflections, and fresh insight into what it really takes to thrive as a modern fractional executive.

Chapters
[Start] The Importance of Speed in Early-Stage Companies: Chad and Michelle open the episode discussing why fast decision-making creates competitive advantage.
12:02 Partnerships and Company Growth: Chad shares how he was able to grow his company from a one-man firm into the agency it is today.
29:20 The Hardest Parts of Entrepreneurship: Discussions on cash flow, scaling challenges, taxes, hiring volatility, and the emotional resilience needed to run a business.
41:27 Don’t Wait on Good Ideas: Michelle uses her own life story to highlight the importance of acting quickly on good ideas.
47:42 Chad’s Rascal Moment: Chad talks about breaking out of his “lane” and embracing a more rebellious approach to leadership.

Links & Resources

CMO Zen

Connect with Chad Jardine: 
  • linkedin.com/in/chadjardine
  • chad@cmozen.com
  • chadscalendar.com
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