Is the Democratic establishment losing control of its own party? Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas examine the rise of Wisconsin progressive Francesca Hong and what her campaign could mean for the growing battle between the Democratic establishment and its populist and socialist left. Ted and JT argue that Democrats have spent years defining themselves by opposition to Donald Trump while failing to give voters a compelling agenda of their own. Could Wisconsin become another sign that Democratic voters are ready to revolt against the party establishment? Then The DeProgram goes considerably further off the rails. Producer Robby West tells Ted and JT about his unforgettable encounter with Montana Congressman Ryan Zinke while working for Verizon—including the moment Zinke allegedly asked, “Do you know who I am?” and Robby responded by calling him a California carpetbagger. The show also dives into AOC freezing her eggs, Joe Biden's cancer and political legacy, questions surrounding Biden's health while in office, Israel rejecting the latest Gaza proposal, Hamas disarmament, Trump's struggle to find an off-ramp, Iran's demands, the Strait of Hormuz, and the new Turkey-Saudi Arabia-Pakistan defense relationship. On this episode:

• Francesca Hong and Wisconsin's progressive insurgency
• The Democratic establishment vs. the party's left
• Why Democrats can't build their entire identity around Trump
• Hillary Clinton's disastrous 2016 Wisconsin strategy
• Robby's wild Ryan Zinke “carpetbagger” story
• AOC, IVF, egg freezing and political influencing
• Joe Biden's cancer and his political legacy
• What Democrats knew about Biden's health
• Israel, Hamas and the Gaza negotiations
• Trump's disappearing Middle East off-ramp
• Iran and the Strait of Hormuz
• Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan's new defense pact

The DeProgram brings together cartoonist Ted Rall, political commentator Jamarl Thomas, and producer Robby West for an unscripted discussion of American politics, foreign policy and the stories driving the day.

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