Returns from conventional venture capital funds have lagged below those from public market investing consistently and stubbornly since 1997. That is more than two decades.  In their continuing quest to find sustainable venture investment models that will benefit all parties, stakeholders, and communities, Gillian and Anne discuss whether an index fund, as commonly used in public markets, would be a workable solution. Hear how they talk it through and where they arrive at the best way forward for investors and entrepreneurs together.