John Barnes joins Kait Borsay to discuss how Graham Taylor guided him to Liverpool, whether Jurgen Klopp is better than Brendan Rodgers, and his experiences of racism in football. In the course of his career John Barnes played 79 times for England, won the First Division twice, the FA Cup twice, and the League Cup. He is now known for speaking out against racism in football and society. GET IN TOUCH Read our articles at www.offsiderulepodcast.com (https://offsiderulepodcast.com/) Tweet us @OffsideRulePod (https://twitter.com/OffsideRulePod) Find us on Instagram @OffsideRulePod (https://www.instagram.com/offsiderulepod/?hl=en) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices