Kelly and Erik talk to Rachel Kaplan who is a somatic psychotherapist, permaculture designer, educator, and author. She lives on a small urban homestead with her family and their many critters in Petaluma, CA. She is a co-founder of the 13Moon CoLab, an all-woman teaching team offering an evolutionary training, Permaculture from the Inside Out. Her collaborators in this venture are Kyra Auerbach, Delia Carroll and Cassandra Ferrera. Rachel wrote Urban Homesteading: Heirloom Skills for Sustainable Living (with K. Ruby Blume), and is currently working on a long-awaited book about community dance ritual with dance luminary Anna Halprin. Her website is: www.13mooncollaborative.com