Guesting for this show is US author, researcher, lecturer and musician Marty Leeds. Marty is renowned for his work with English and Hebrew Gematria systems, and his study of numbers and how they express themselves throughout the Universe, giving strong evidence for an intelligent, guiding force behind everything. He is on to his third volume exploring the transcendental number of Pi, and its cameo appearances in all aspects of nature and creation.

We talk about all of the above, and how they come together in what Marty refers to as 'Mathemagic.' And we begin by revisiting the controversial question of whether the Earth is really a spinning globe and a tiny speck in a colossal universe, as official sources tell us, or whether the evidence points far more to it being a flat, motionless plane and the subject of intelligent design. Marty addresses the question rationally, calmly, and with no vested interest in a particular outcome. He is simply a critically-minded seeker of truth. He demonstrates how certain areas of his other work certainly support the flat plane idea.