Bart Campolo's oldest and closest friend, Matthew Rodreick, is this week's guest on the podcast. Matthew's life has been shaped by his son Gabe's spinal cord injury, sustained around a decade ago when Gabe was 16.

The conversation in this episode begins by exploring the relationship between father and son and the multiple roles one must play in that event, and validating Matthew's own experience as Gabe's father as a valid and important one.

It finishes entirely differently: with a moment of revisionist history for Bart as he is reminded that he did not support Matthew's choice to reconnect with his birth father at the beginning, and the two friends playfully mull over Bart's old advice, what he got wrong and why.

Matthew's organization, Unite 2 Fight Paralysis, can be found at u2pf.org.

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