"On vinyl, one for the collectors."

In this week's episode, the boys sit down over a couple of beers (financed with the final pounds of bar mitzvah money) with friend of the pod, Head of New Business at NSPCC, Brightsport trainer and university dropout, Ben Swart.

After a spectacularly unsuccessful career in PPI sales, Ben talks about his journey into fundraising, how he loves Esther Rantzen as much as the limelight and the practicalities of splitting his professional life between two jobs. We discuss finding balance, thinking about your future career and how life events can make us readdress what is important.

James gives a powerpoint presentation to his kids, Kenneth is excited by a new box at home and Ben confesses that he once applied for four jobs at the same organisation and accepted them all.

The first of three episodes from the IFC and its as good as a Gazza screamer from 35 yards.

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