Dean does it costs money to have McHugh excavating come out and give me a bid for a job that will typically come out and you know if it's an hour two of our time just to look over your project and put some numbers together or kind of walk through what we suggest is possible fixes. That's free. It's if we get into something almost like engineering a solution then you know spending 5 10 15 20 hours and you know we either expect to have the job or or

expect to be paid something for the time. But just look at a project look at over pencil up some price and give you a proposal. There's no charge for that.

What's the benefit of hiring somebody local rather than getting you know somebody that maybe a few dollars cheaper from another community.

There's not a lot of that in the smaller residential work. Of course there isn't some larger stuff some of the public good kind of stuff. There will be folks from out of town building but you know if you ever have a question or a problem down the road I'm always shoes on the other foot I like to hire somebody local someone I know or somebody that I know knows them and I confident that they'll have a phone if I call them if I have a problem come back take a look at it whether it's going to take additional work or additional advice were raised here locally we're not going anywhere.

McHugh excavating hiring at the moment.

At the moment no color we have added some people this year. And I wouldn't be surprised if we add a few more here.

How does somebody go about applying for a job at McHugh excavating.

Well you can either stop in and ask for me or Steve will send our H.R. director or simpler yet I know a lot of people like to just look online at least for the initial step at our Web site. McHugh excavating that com there is a tab with a simplified version of our application. Click the link when you're done send it into us then we can always talk from there. We do have a more extended application we'd need before we hired someone but a lot of times that first more basic application can save a trip in or at least get you on our radar screen. If you've got a little bit of the type of experience we're looking for or at least start the conversation does McCue excavating work around to some degree. Yes we do have a number of our field employees that end up on winter lay off when work slows down and that varies year to year. The last few years we've had quite a bit of work. So there hasn't been a whole ton of layoff but it really it all depends on the winter. We do somewhat to work if it's available some of our stuff can be done in the winter. So for example a septic system can't be done in the winter. The street projects are tearing up the street you know wouldn't be able to get repaved so that can be done in the winter. But there are things that we do that can be done in the winter and when those opportunities hit at the right time of the year and maybe get started in the early fall and continue on into the winter those winters

a lot of the guys were quite a bit of the winter