This week we talk to Rod Drury (@roddrury) starting with paddle boards and how Rod started in the industry with Microsoft Access and Visual Basic apps before 'why Aftermail' and then, of course, Xero.

We cover youth employment/grad programmes and how they can help grow the industry via the small business that are customers of Xero.

Rod asks what do you do after you make it big – "buy your silly cars, then what?" and puts his view on  how companies can help in communities to build expertise and greater companies that will help evolve New Zealand Inc. 

What's next for Xero ... machine learning ... automate everything! 

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We share the stories from people that work in New Zealand tech, social media, startups. If you have a story or know someone that does - get in touch!

Mike Riversdale (@MiramarMike) background is explaining stuff, connecting people and getting things done. Raj Khushal (@nzRaj) background is in video, design, media and making things happen.

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