aurynn shaw supplies an update on the scaled-up Mastodon social media NZ Project, challenges Mike on a number of view points, and discusses the concept of "lazy" (ie, there is no such thing) and how it affects the tech world.

All as Dominic from Hashigo Zake (https://www.hashigozake.co.nz/) supplies the team with a free beer, it's not advertising but it certainly helps the conversation flow, thanks Dom.

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