Mike Holmgren joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to discuss the fallout of Jon Gruden’s ouster in Las Vegas as Gruden was a former assistant on Holmgren’s coaching staffs. Cris Collinsworth pops on briefly to discuss Gruden and the Seahawks-Steelers game this Sunday night, what the Seahawks will get out of a backup quarterback in Geno Smith, Chris Carson missing another practice with his neck injury.