Shane Pill describes himself as an 'accidental academic'. He is a PE teacher and coach who found himself in the world of academia and has spent his career studying various pedagogical approaches to learning in sport and PE.

In this fascinating conversation we discuss:

- Why Shane advocates a 'pragmatic' approach to coaching that he calls 'Sport Literacy'.
- The difference between a game and an 'open drill' (it's still a game in my book!).
- Arnold's 'in-through-about' model of learning in sport.
- The difference between 'guided discovery', 'divergent discovery' and 'convergent discovery'.

It is a conversation that challenged some of my thinking...I hope it does for you too!

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