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dumbed down atheist 19B Tory Christman
Nov 13, 2012 ·
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Description
Tory Christman drops in..An ex Scientologist and activist to chat with Rob about life, the universe and lots of interesting things about her time in and out of $cientology....http://www.youtube.com/user/ToryMagoo44?gl=AU&hl=en-GB plus...
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Tory Christman drops in..An ex Scientologist and activist to chat with Rob about life, the universe and lots of interesting things about her time in and out of $cientology....http://www.youtube.com/user/ToryMagoo44?gl=AU&hl=en-GB
plus Nev From Nangwarry....and the 'Old Mutha Hubbard' Song......
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plus Nev From Nangwarry....and the 'Old Mutha Hubbard' Song......
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@Scony - I am attacking Tory Christman's Operation Clambake Message board adherent's [TCOCMBA] speculations in the "RPF locked buildings and fences violate 13th amendment" thread. There is no way TCOCMBA's can know what motivated each person in that situation. There seems to be no self awareness among TCOCMBA's that they are projecting their own victim junk onto "Scientologists" by labelling them all coerced victims just because it suits TCOCMBA's ideology and beliefs. The views in that thread are faker than the fake church they are criticizing.
Robert Darby
11 years ago
i'm on it......
http://angryatheist.info/?p=956
https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/the-angry-atheist/id465778667
And "scony" , who the F cares "why", the views expressee,d in the thread about people's involvement not being "voluntary" are INSANE.
http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=131765
scony - what "misinformation" am I spreading? And I have no need to "get away from Miscavidge" and no need of any of those fake church oriented web sites you proivded....I have and want no connection to your fake churches, either side of the debate. And please, you and Tory are the ones engaged in the "spread of misinformation and confusion and to generate ad-hominem attacks".
See the link below for Tory Christman's Operation Clambake Fake Church members calling "Scientologists" mindless blobs with no power to self-determine anything or to voluntariliy be involved in their own life choices. It is unbelievably insulting to Americans and citizens of other countries who might choose to be involved in Scientology.
http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=131765
And what stands out, for me, is that none of Tory's people call each other on the strange beliefs they trade back and forth to each other ad nauseum.
If the extreme proponants, on both sides of the debate about the fake church, were to stop lying, exaggerating, using force and manipulation on others, there would not be much to tallk about. The fake church probably does all kinds of BS in order to defend itselfg that it would not do if it was not under attack and criticks attack all the things the fake church does to defend itsrelf against their attcks = vicious circle.
Though the advocates of the fake church of Scientology and the opposers of the fake church of Scientology are involved in seemingly diffrent activities, they have something in common.
The advocates of the fake church of Scientology side with, protect and tolerate extreme and unacceptable conduct amond their members, and IF one is being honest about it, it is blatanltly obvious that the opposers of the fake church of Scientology side with, also protect and tolerate, protect and tolerate extreme and unacceptable conduct amond their members as well.
Both advocates and opposers argue that they are "in the right so suck it". With both advocates and opposers, there can be found behavior that goes against what society deems acceptable.
Robert - both sides of the Scientology debate are suspect in my opinion. The advocates and the opposers.
The advocates are bent on shoving their strange fairy-tale down each others and society's throats and the opposers are equally, if not more so, bent on shoving intolerance, fear mongering and victim postion down each others and society's throats. Both are forceful, irrational clubs who have bought into thier own ideologies. Without the Scientology topic, the advocates and opposers both share like a little teddy bear they are both pettng, hugging and holding onto, both advocates and the opposers might need to oh, I don't know, ...get a life?
Robert Darby
11 years ago
don't forget this gem ...Jamie DeWolf
http://www.spreaker.com/user/4582839/dumbed_down_atheist_ep_04
Hey - "scony" Scientology is probably THE single kookiest thing anyone, who is not in it up to thier elbows, has heard of. And this old "crackpot" Tory was a salesperson for it her whole adult life. Then the worm turned for her, for whatever reason, and now this bored American with nothing better to do, becomes no better than those annoying ex-cigarette smokers who want everyone to butt out, just because they quit smoking? Tory had no-life when she was in, and obsessed with her precious fake church and she has no-life now that she is out and is as obsessed as ever with her no longer precious fake church. BTW - I overstated that Tory was "dissing" Rob "all over the internet". That is not the case. Tory was playing victim to the interview with rob though. :)
Robert Darby
11 years ago
Tory is always welcome on my podcast...Tory gave a great interview, full of honesty.
btw, tried to remove repetitive posts but they would not remove - hnse the redundant posts
http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=130618 check this out Robert. Tori's appreciateion for you time and airtime Will warm your heart.
Haha, you gave that narcisstic senior citizen Tory Christman a platform to talk about her stupid life and then she goes dissing you all over the internet, and acting victimized by the intererview. Frickin hliarious. Robert, what did you expect dealing with a crack pot like that? LOL
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