In this brain-tingling episode, hear more from Peter Kingsley, as well as Casey's better-than-average hot take on what Heraclitus was all about. Do I have a Philosophy degree? Am I qualified to have authority on this topic? No. Do I have a serious opinion about it, yes. Heraclitus was a shaman, just like Parmenides and Socrates -- and that's the main thing. Comparing "what they said" is a mid-wit thing to do. It's like contrasting the different homily styles of 13th century Roman Catholic priests, and declaring that two of the "were total opposites" -- completely forgetting that they shared almost everything in common just because their method for converting, or their favorite subject matter, was different. Look, we're talking about saying the unsayable, speaking the unspeakable, effing the ineffable.

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