Naturalist, television producer and prolific writer Stephen Moss joins me to talk about birds - all kinds of birds, but particularly the swallow, which is the subject of his latest book. We discuss lockdown, writing and the healing power of nature, with a healthy dose of Bill Oddie. Stephen also shares the moving story of meeting his father in his forties and speaks powerfully of the strength and support of family.

Stephen's songs were :
She Loves you -The Beatles
Rocket Man - Elton John
All the young Dudes - Mott the hoople
Cum on Feel the Noize - Slade
Sylvia - Focus
Make me Smile - Steve Harley and Cockney Rebel
Star Man - David Bowie
Penny Lane - The Beatles
I Will Always Love You - Dolly Parton
Wichita Lineman - Glen Campbell
Tracks of my Tears - Smokey Robinson & the Miracles
Angels - Robbie Williams