Imagine listening to someone’s heartbeat for five minutes. Imagine a silent dinner. Imagine accepting to get rid of social codes. Imagine experiencing telepathy. Imagine building a friendship as an artwork. Imagine being directed to enact a script written by an artist.

This is what entering the performances of Honi Ryan and Abi Tariq feels like.

For our 16th episode of the Art of Social Change Podcast we invited these two artists to talk about their individual practices and their collaborative work.