Episode 2 A Little Logic: The Concept and Some Context
Feb 1, 2019 ·
32m 21s
What is logic? Who cares? Is it important? Why is logic misunderstood by some? In this episode, Melanie and Michael discuss -- rough, raw, and unedited -- the quick basics...
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What is logic? Who cares? Is it important? Why is logic misunderstood by some?
In this episode, Melanie and Michael discuss -- rough, raw, and unedited -- the quick basics of what logic is, how so many get it wrong, and why it is important for you to live a healthy, happy, thriving life. Broad-strokes for now. We will expand on all this in future episodes.
Episode Outline:
0:00 Intro
1:11 Some quotes: "If you're not getting hate mail..." and "First they don't know about you, then they ignore you..."
2:00 What is Logic? A fundamental to human life and to education. Clearly we need to learn logic -- just look around you. Detailed places it comes up in life.
4:15 Logic is a method. It's how we do things and how we think about things: education, kids, technique, in exercise, music, martial arts, etc All of these require logic.
9:00 Logic is behind all success -- good logic helps develop good technique in anything.
12:00 Conceptual knowledge, pre-conceptual knowledge, habits; logic helps with the proper development of these.
13:10 Emotions are part of our nature - logic and emotions integrate into a healthy individual. To deny one or the other, is illogical. Spock was illogical.
16:00 It's not a battle between emotion and reason - each has their proper role. Appreciate them for what they are and what they do!
20:10 Use your emotions *and* logic - just like you'd use your hands *and* your feet.
20:30 Logic is a tool for survival.
23:00 Some philosophers have had some bad premises based on some bad ideas about what logic was.
24:00 Aristotle was right: logic is about connecting your ideas, concepts, generalizations, and propositions to the world. The world is the standard, via the evidence of the senses.
26:30 Abraham Lincoln studied and memorized Euclid's Elements. This helped him reason better, become a better lawyer, become more successful in politics and become a president -- which positively affected our culture. All because he studied geometry.
28:20 Observation and induction connect us to reality.
30:25 To Sum Up: The most important things are classification, definition, forming generalizations, and forming concepts. They much more important to human survival and thriving than memorizing deductive form and such.
Be logical. Check your premises. Be a good rational animal.
To support the show and help us grow our audience -- so we have more of an impact on education and the culture -- please help us with a donation:
1. https://www.patreon.com/reasonrxpodcast
2. https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=SP6QPQKJU4XSS&source=url
Also, please consider liking us on your podcast app, and leaving a rational review.
And if you find an episode valuable, please share it with parents, teachers, school personnel, friends, and family. Help spread the word, help spread rational ideas for better living.
Contact Melanie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melanie-katragadda-nctm-9b14522a
Contact Michael:
1. Email: reasonrx@aol.com
2. Gold Academy: https://www.goldams.com
3. Total Human Fitness: https://total-human-fitness.com
4. Cypress Creek Ecological Restoration Project: https://ccerp.org
5. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-gold-2883921/
6. Twitter/Instagram: EpistemeRx
A quote we mentioned: "First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. And then they attack you and want to burn you. And then they build monuments to you." --Nicholas Klein (source: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/first-they-ignore-you/)
Not the other quote we mentioned, but good nonetheless: "You have enemies? Why, it is the story of every man who has done a great deed or created a new idea. It is the cloud which thunders around everything which shines. Fame must have enemies, as light must have gnats. Do not bother yourself about it; disdain. Keep your mind serene as you keep your life clear. Do not give your enemies the satisfaction of thinking that they cause you grief or pain. Be happy, be cheerful, be disdainful, be firm.” --Victor Hugo (source: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2018/09/11/deed/)
External Links
1. The awesome Shrike (video by WIRED): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE6y-v7m-JY
2. The awesome Shrike (video by Nat Geo Wild): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okQYO10MT3c
3. Chimpanzees hunting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1WBs74W4ik
4. Maybe the video (I'd have to dig it up) that said some Chimpanzees eat 1,000 pounds of meat per year was misinformed or meant a group did: https://www-bcf.usc.edu/~stanford/chimphunt.html
4a. At 44 seconds: “in some parts of Africa, a chimp will eat a ton of meat a year:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQq93Q2txrs
5. While we are on the subject of Chimpanzees and meat-eating: https://nature.berkeley.edu/miltonlab/pdfs/meateating.pdf
6. The Art of Reasoning (logic text): https://www.amazon.com/Art-Reasoning-Introduction-Critical-Thinking/dp/0393930785/
7. Good lecture series on introductory logic: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOCWSOHhjJPV7ANZTzv4qD079xe8LXsZn
8. Curiosity: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/curiosity
9. Skeptical: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/skeptical
Image from https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Aristotle_Altemps_Inv8575.jpg
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In this episode, Melanie and Michael discuss -- rough, raw, and unedited -- the quick basics of what logic is, how so many get it wrong, and why it is important for you to live a healthy, happy, thriving life. Broad-strokes for now. We will expand on all this in future episodes.
Episode Outline:
0:00 Intro
1:11 Some quotes: "If you're not getting hate mail..." and "First they don't know about you, then they ignore you..."
2:00 What is Logic? A fundamental to human life and to education. Clearly we need to learn logic -- just look around you. Detailed places it comes up in life.
4:15 Logic is a method. It's how we do things and how we think about things: education, kids, technique, in exercise, music, martial arts, etc All of these require logic.
9:00 Logic is behind all success -- good logic helps develop good technique in anything.
12:00 Conceptual knowledge, pre-conceptual knowledge, habits; logic helps with the proper development of these.
13:10 Emotions are part of our nature - logic and emotions integrate into a healthy individual. To deny one or the other, is illogical. Spock was illogical.
16:00 It's not a battle between emotion and reason - each has their proper role. Appreciate them for what they are and what they do!
20:10 Use your emotions *and* logic - just like you'd use your hands *and* your feet.
20:30 Logic is a tool for survival.
23:00 Some philosophers have had some bad premises based on some bad ideas about what logic was.
24:00 Aristotle was right: logic is about connecting your ideas, concepts, generalizations, and propositions to the world. The world is the standard, via the evidence of the senses.
26:30 Abraham Lincoln studied and memorized Euclid's Elements. This helped him reason better, become a better lawyer, become more successful in politics and become a president -- which positively affected our culture. All because he studied geometry.
28:20 Observation and induction connect us to reality.
30:25 To Sum Up: The most important things are classification, definition, forming generalizations, and forming concepts. They much more important to human survival and thriving than memorizing deductive form and such.
Be logical. Check your premises. Be a good rational animal.
To support the show and help us grow our audience -- so we have more of an impact on education and the culture -- please help us with a donation:
1. https://www.patreon.com/reasonrxpodcast
2. https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=SP6QPQKJU4XSS&source=url
Also, please consider liking us on your podcast app, and leaving a rational review.
And if you find an episode valuable, please share it with parents, teachers, school personnel, friends, and family. Help spread the word, help spread rational ideas for better living.
Contact Melanie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melanie-katragadda-nctm-9b14522a
Contact Michael:
1. Email: reasonrx@aol.com
2. Gold Academy: https://www.goldams.com
3. Total Human Fitness: https://total-human-fitness.com
4. Cypress Creek Ecological Restoration Project: https://ccerp.org
5. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-gold-2883921/
6. Twitter/Instagram: EpistemeRx
A quote we mentioned: "First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. And then they attack you and want to burn you. And then they build monuments to you." --Nicholas Klein (source: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/first-they-ignore-you/)
Not the other quote we mentioned, but good nonetheless: "You have enemies? Why, it is the story of every man who has done a great deed or created a new idea. It is the cloud which thunders around everything which shines. Fame must have enemies, as light must have gnats. Do not bother yourself about it; disdain. Keep your mind serene as you keep your life clear. Do not give your enemies the satisfaction of thinking that they cause you grief or pain. Be happy, be cheerful, be disdainful, be firm.” --Victor Hugo (source: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2018/09/11/deed/)
External Links
1. The awesome Shrike (video by WIRED): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE6y-v7m-JY
2. The awesome Shrike (video by Nat Geo Wild): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okQYO10MT3c
3. Chimpanzees hunting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1WBs74W4ik
4. Maybe the video (I'd have to dig it up) that said some Chimpanzees eat 1,000 pounds of meat per year was misinformed or meant a group did: https://www-bcf.usc.edu/~stanford/chimphunt.html
4a. At 44 seconds: “in some parts of Africa, a chimp will eat a ton of meat a year:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQq93Q2txrs
5. While we are on the subject of Chimpanzees and meat-eating: https://nature.berkeley.edu/miltonlab/pdfs/meateating.pdf
6. The Art of Reasoning (logic text): https://www.amazon.com/Art-Reasoning-Introduction-Critical-Thinking/dp/0393930785/
7. Good lecture series on introductory logic: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOCWSOHhjJPV7ANZTzv4qD079xe8LXsZn
8. Curiosity: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/curiosity
9. Skeptical: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/skeptical
Image from https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Aristotle_Altemps_Inv8575.jpg
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