25 JAN 2024 · This week Jepson has his friend Jordan Morrow, who have known each other for a while now in the data and analytics space. He helped pioneer and invent data literacy, which continues to evolve, so he now travels the world, speaking on it and helping companies and people out. Listen as Jordan and Jepson discuss subjects such as ultra running and the hero’s journey, the importance of learning from everyone, education and where it needs to change, and more about artificial intelligence. - About Jordan, ultra running 1:00 - The hero’s journey 7:30 - Everyone has a story and something to teach 20:00 - Vulnerability 28:00 - Superhero wife 41:20 - Priorities change, regret 47:00 - Writing code is so much easier now 57:30 “How many people in August 2022 thought ‘Hmm, I think in November Chat GPT is gonna launch’? It shifted the world. On January 2020, how many people were like ‘Hmm, I think a global pandemic’s gonna hit.’? It shifted the world. I think that you’re gonna set yourself up to fail if you don’t have a mindset for change, and change isn’t a bad thing, but it has such a negative connotation.” 47:15

16 JAN 2024 · In this week’s episode Jepson talks to David Hardoon, who is the Group Chief Data & AI Officer at UnionBank Philippines and Chief Executive Officer for Aboitiz Data Innovation. They talk about a few interesting concepts such as center of excellence and what that means, and then the importance of keeping and maintaining the momentum of your organization. They talk about the idea of taking risks and being happy, and the opposing concepts that we are wired for survival and avoiding risk, while at the same time we are wired for the hero’s journey. - Beginning David’s journey and video games 2:40 - Center of excellence 8:50 - A pivotal point in his life 16:00 - Defending the momentum 22:40 - Wanting to be happy in what you do 30:00 - Keep thinking new 41:00 - The art of asking questions 48:45 “Think of it this way, if you think about optimization and especially when you deal with a multi-objective optimization, never, in the real world, have an absolute maximum optimum. You will always have a scenario where you optimize for one thing and you sacrifice giving your underlying objectives.” 18:30 Davidroihardoon.com

29 AUG 2023 · Justin Harnish describes himself as a creator, promoter, and problem solver that loves to deliver the hoped-for future who utilizes science, mindfulness, and storytelling in product development and product management to ensure success. Justin and Jepson discuss AI and its trajectory, and where it stands among actual consciousness, discussing whether it’s truly conscious or not and what it lacks in order to become truly conscious. - Justin’s story 1:10 - AI race being driven by greed or empathy 12:30 - AI observing Newton’s laws 23:50 - Is GPT conscious? What is it missing? 30:00 - When you’d give up fighting that it’s not a synthetic organism 44:20 - A singular you 55:40 - Lucid dreaming 63:45 - Believing in a synthetic consciousness 66:00 - What makes up a good life 69:15 - Being your authentic self while also taking feedback from your tribe 81:00 - AI will change everything for this generation 98:55 “If you can have that intellectual fortitude, if you can be mindful in your worst time so the individual at the TSA doesn’t know that you’re having a bad day, you don’t take it out on the waiter or the waitress, that’s living a good life.” 7:28 http://www.justinaharnish.com @justinaharnish

22 AUG 2023 · Today Jepson sits down with Erik Boduch, the CEO of Revcast, Founder of 24 and Up, and co-founder of Once and Always Pendo to discuss startups and various aspects that go into them such as the importance of blissful ignorance and why that is necessary to get a startup going. They talk about what a venture studio is vs what a venture capitalist is, the studio being more like a co-founder setup where they’re a lot more involved and it gives the early stage companies a lot more resources to help them succeed. - Startups 1:30 - Product market fit 6:25 - Pivoting 12:40 - 24 and Up, venture studio vs venture capitalist 18:10 - Common themes and issues for founders 21:40 - The generative AI space 24:00 - Where product and AI is heading 33:00 - Picking an appropriate partner to go to market 36:50 - Hiring senior vs junior talent 42:00 - Internships 46:40 - Mental reset 49:15 “In the majority of cases, startups need to have that direct relationship and control of the relationship with those early customers because without that direct relationship and control, they have a very important bottleneck or factor that’s out of your control and that becomes very difficult, especially if they don’t have leverage…I think it’s important that startups in the majority of cases aren’t overly reliant on partnerships for that sales component.” 37:20 Twitter:@eboduch

8 AUG 2023 · In this episode Jepson talks to Romain Fouache who is the CRO of Dataiku and who comes from a technical background. The cost of failure is going down and the ability to identify the failures beforehand is rapidly increasing, which is going to save companies so much more time in analyzing their data. “How do you give people the ability to do many things while feeling confident in the fact that the things that are done are the right things?” Romain gives some tips on the middle ground companies should be shooting for when trying to give people autonomy, but at the same time establish enough boundaries so that things don’t get out of hand. - Romain’s story and background 1:30 - A mature timeline 5:10 - Why Europe hasn’t taken a more aggressive VC culture 10:00 - Becoming aware of Dataiku 23:15 - Democratization success stories 28:05 - Being a sales leader and communication 33:05 - Making sure work doesn’t consume all of you 37:15 - The future of the company and the next generation 45:40 “I think the exciting thing there is the cost of failure, so if it takes me weeks and I’m working for you, if I come back next week and I say it didn’t work, OK? But if I come back in a year and a half on one project and say it didn’t work, and you’ve paid me for a year and a half, that’s a very different comparison. That’s something I’m very excited about is the cost of failure of a bad idea is quickly going to zero.” 6:24

1 AUG 2023 · Today Jepson sits down with Ed Watal, the founder and principal of Intellibus, an IT strategy consultancy with 65 transformation consultants. Ed gives advice for IT strategy and architecture due to his business acumen and deep IT knowledge and he has also built and sold various Tech and AI startups. Jepson and Ed talk about self awareness and AI, and what makes us individuals and separates us from machine intelligence. They discuss World Digital Governance and rules and ethics that need to be set in order to make sure AI tech is not abused, especially with the general public that just doesn’t understand how it works. - Coming to the US to work for Deutsche Bank 7:00 - The banking industry and archaic systems 13:30 - Building good culture 20:15 - The future Ed hopes to have a voice in 25:20 - Self awareness 31:30 - The infographics 39:00 - Falling prey to external validation from AI 46:20 - World Digital Governance 51:15 - Potential problems people should be thinking about with AI 59:30 - Jepson’s view on AI and ethics 68:50 “If you think of all discovery as just art and it’s just this giant jigsaw puzzle with the X that you were trying to solve, then maybe that’s what it is. It’s like solving a jigsaw, but solving a jigsaw presumes that you sort of know what you’re trying to get to and you have an intuitive, or some sort of higher sense of the outcome. The question is, does AI have that awareness or that sense of an outcome? Where does that sense come from? They say it comes from intuition, from something else. People who are spiritual will say it’s your higher self, you’re connected to something in the Universe, it depends on whether you’re purely Darwinian, spiritual, or somewhere in the middle.” 37:24

4 JUL 2023 · Today Jepson talks to a good friend of his, Scott Paul, who has done a lot of great things and created various businesses, his first being a drone business in 2008 after he realized how useful these would be in a time when helicopters were more often used, but very costly. He spent all his money on this little startup and hiring an employee, but it quickly failed, which was rough, but it was a good first lesson in entrepreneurship. He immediately went from there to the next thing, creating another business and selling it, and then worked with Disney. - His first startup 2:30 - Scott’s first exit 10:05 - Acquisitions have changed 15:00 - ChatGPT and unlimited information 24:45 - Linkedin and getting blacklisted 29:00 - Finding consistent happiness 38:35 - Religion and diversity 48:30 - Knowing truth 55:25 - Grief 60:00 “It’s never on my mind to ‘Oh I gotta go to work’ or ‘I gotta put in hours for this person.’ and it hasn’t been for 12 years, and that gives me a little bit of freedom to ask ‘What do I want to achieve? What do I want to do? Work on? Accomplish?’ I will not ever give that up. I will be out here in a TP zenned out before I ever go back. I will keep that time freedom ‘til my dying day.” 7:26

27 JUN 2023 · Amy D. Grubb, Ph.D., is an internationally acclaimed leadership expert and speaker, currently advising the FBI on digital transformation. With 20+ years of experience, she has implemented change initiatives, advised C-suite leaders, and received awards for her contributions. Dr. Grubb is known for her expertise in organizational culture, performance, and coaching. Jepson and Amy discuss storytelling and the importance of using this tool to connect with audiences and gain the attention of those to whom you’re speaking. Presenting new technology can at times be somewhat bland or boring unless you get people’s emotions involved by conveying a relatable story. - New tech and how to make it known 3:05 - Storytelling 6:30 - Making the hero’s journey exciting from the start 11:45 - Understanding your audience 25:50 - Her experience with 9-11 27:05 - Advanced storytelling 35:35 - Being more vulnerable and not regretting it 45:45 - Criticism of her earlier talks 48:15 - Convincing people to change 50:50 “When I talk to, say for example, law enforcement personnel, I use different analogies and different language than if I am talking to aviators and using different analogies than I would do if I’m talking to financial people, or physicians. There’s a different language, there’s a different cadence to it, but it has to have meaning for them and it has to be real for them. It’s the same stuff, it’s just speaking a different language and I think that’s how you engage people.” 26:30

20 JUN 2023 · Today Jepson talks with Caroline Rowland who is the founder of Egoli Media, an AI platform which enables creators to manage, repurpose, and store their digital content at low cost but with highly accurate search and distribution capabilities. They discuss Caroline’s companies and the journey she has taken to create these businesses that she now runs and continues to grow, and then the lessons and skills she’s learned along the way. Being a CEO can be a very lonely and difficult path, but a very rewarding one as you establish these unique relationships in this position. - Caroline’s beginnings 3:45 - Culture and going into a new country 13:30 - Founding her tech company 16:45 - How long it’s been around 31:15 - Becoming comfortable with having a sales conversation 41:20 - GTP-4 47:00 - Organizing the material 56:00 - Positives and negatives of being a CEO 1:02:40 - Knowing the buyer 1:19:00 - Startups and resources 1:34:40 - Women are treated differently 1:42:15 “One of the episodes was about Nadia Comăneci, the gymnast, and we couldn’t find it. We went into the database that the IOC have of their entire history of video, and we kept searching for her. Couldn’t find her. We got one clip, and in the end some smart person on the team said they would look for athletes she competed against and see if there’s footage of her. We found 76 different spellings of her name.” 57:46 Twitter:@ccrowland68

13 JUN 2023 · In this episode, Jepson interviews Briana Cavion, who describes herself as a student of life and focuses much of her work on supporting individuals who are interested in initiating a spiritual journey who want to understand the relationship between this finite moment and our infinite selves. Her focus is to help people who have reached certain levels of success that are seen as success in the eyes of the corporate, nationalist, modern environment, but still feel a vast sense of emptiness that they haven’t been able to negotiate or understand. “Your life, once you’ve initiated this spiritual path, will always be hungry for something deeper, and no amount of external failure or success will fill that hunger…all beings are one being and our joy is found when we are working for the highest good for all.” - A spiritual famine and external validation 4:20 - How to show vulnerability and be a leader 9:00 - Utilizing vulnerability as a superpower 20:10 - Neurolinguistics 25:00 - Seeking that “edge” 32:40 - Briana’s legacy 39:20 - DMT, or dimethyltryptamine 50:00 - Gaining trust first for ayahuasca 58:25 - Tips for your first trip 68:15 - Stack ranking psychedelics 81:25 - This life is the trip 92:30 - What’s going on that we don’t understand 107:15 - Choosing to sit in Hell 123:30 - AI and psychedelics 131:10 “Most the time I get people who the 3 year old, who never got attention from their father, is still trying to get attention by working 80 hour weeks. What if we revamped your schedule, delegated these 6 tasks, reduced your work week down to 60 hours, which is still a ridiculous amount of time, but reduced it down so that you weren’t on the brink of a breakdown, so you could actually get some sleep. Most execs that I know need to sleep more.” 10:36 http://www.theearthtemple.com @the.earth.temple