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People who’ve got a good mind to tell you something.
Real stories told with people, not about them.
Winner: Australian Podcast Awards: the Specialist Award… for an indie podcast, selected by the judges from across all award categories, that produces exceptional listening experiences for niche audiences and those underrepresented in other Australian media. Winner: Best New Podcast: The Radio Today Podcast Awards. Winner: The Arts and Media Award: Mental Health Matters Awards 2024.
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Real stories told with people, not about them.
Winner: Australian Podcast Awards: the Specialist Award… for an indie podcast, selected by the judges from across all award categories, that produces exceptional listening experiences for niche audiences and those underrepresented in other Australian media. Winner: Best New Podcast: The Radio Today Podcast Awards. Winner: The Arts and Media Award: Mental Health Matters Awards 2024.
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28 MAY 2026 · In The Bush, Matthew Priestley reflects on growing up at a time when incarceration was a new rite of passage for Aboriginal boys, a new way of taking kids away, and a yarn inspired by his own teenage years unfolds across the Dreamings of Gomeroi Country.
To check out the film Hurt https://patreon.com/coequal
To check out Big Hart's website https://bighart.org
Detailed Music Credits
"Chrysalis" by Simon McCorry, "Another One" by Mirko Sosai, "Omen" by Richard Johnson, "Old Postcards" by The Last Days of our Past, "Quirky Play" by Marco Pesci, "Porch Blues" by Kevin MacLeod, "John as well" by Mirko Sosai, "Hurt Guitar Track 8" by Damian Mason, "Charmaine" by Philip Okerstrom, "Dof Dof" by Philip Okerstrom, "Didgeridoo Long Loop" by Tera Mangala, "Guitar bits and bobs" by Philip Okerstrom, "Sneaky" by Philip Okerstrom, "Guts and Bourbon" by Kevin MacLeod, "deranged-terrifying-modern-hor" by Matthew Creid, "Tranquility Base" by Chill Factor, "Wonder and Intrigue" by Erick McNerney, "Spirit Land" by Tristan Barton, "Didgeridoo Ambient 2" by Pascal Tatipata, "What Dreams May Come" by Tristan Barton
This podcast was made with funding from Create NSW.
A podcast from Matthew Priestley supported by Third Space Ventures and Coequal.
To contact Coequal and find out more, check out our Patreon page, https://patreon.com/Coequal
This episode contains references to child removal, racism, incarceration, alcohol misuse and violence.
🪶 STRUCTURE AND CONTENT BREAKDOWN
Opening: The Dreamings We Hold
Speaker: Matthew PriestleyMatthew shares a story about Dreaming itself. Fire, wind, rain, water, animals and people all hold different dreams and responsibilities.Dreamings are not owned. They are held in trust.🌀 Themes: Dreaming as relationship · Responsibility · Interconnection · Knowledge held in trust
Growing Up Between Sydney and Moree
Matthew reflects on being born into a generation shaped by migration, activism and changing government policies.His father works on the Sydney wharves. Family move between Balmain and Moree before eventually returning home.🏙️ Themes: Displacement and return · Family networks · Aboriginal migration · Survival and workRedfern,
Relocation and Assimilation
Examines government housing policies and the movement of Aboriginal families into Sydney suburbs.Contrasts official language of opportunity and integration with the experiences remembered by Aboriginal families.📜 Themes: Assimilation · Government policy · Urban Aboriginal history · Contradiction between policy and lived experience
Grandmothers, Missions and Stanley Village
Matthew describes growing up surrounded by grandmothers, aunties, uncles and Elders.Church, family visits, fishing trips and everyday life become vehicles for cultural learning.🏡 Themes:
Kinship · Intergenerational knowledge · Everyday cultural education · Community
Learning Outside the Classroom
Matthew reflects on school, wagging, and feeling disconnected from formal education while learning from family and community. Contrasts institutional learning with knowledge gained through lived experience.📚 Themes:
Different ways of learning · School and culture · Informal education · Identity
Aboriginal Youth and the Criminal Justice System
Examines the growing overrepresentation of Aboriginal young people in policing, courts and detention during the 1970s and 1980s.Explores how incarceration increasingly becomes a common experience for Aboriginal youth.⚖️ Themes: Systemic discrimination · Criminalisation · Child removal by new means · Structural inequality
Matthew's Teenage Years
Matthew reflects on crime, peer pressure and the expectations placed on young people.Describes becoming caught between family knowledge and the pull of another world.🔥 Themes:
Adolescence · Belonging · Peer influence · Risk and consequence
A Fictional Story
Introduces Alfie and Cammo, two young boys from Moree. After a series of poor choices, Alfie is taken into the bush by his Uncles and left alone with Country.🌾 Themes:
Rite of passage · Consequence · Country as teacher · Storytelling
Hurt: Story Becomes Film
Reveals that Alfie's story formed the basis of the award-winning community film Hurt, created by young people in Moree. Explores how storytelling became a way of sharing cultural knowledge and lived experience.🎬 Themes: Community arts · Storytelling as cultural practice · Youth voice · Creative expression
Matthew's Real Story
Matthew explains that the story of Alfie was inspired by his own experience as a teenager.After getting into trouble, his father and uncles took him into the bush and left him alone. Matthew reflects on confusion, hunger, fear and the lessons that emerged from the experience.🌿 Themes:
Rite of passage · Learning through experience · Family responsibility · Country as teacher
Storytelling and Continuation
Matthew reflects on becoming a storyteller through the guidance of his father and Elders.He describes storytelling as a modern continuation of song and dance—a way for Dreamings and cultural knowledge to keep moving through new forms.💬 Themes: Cultural continuity · Responsibility of storytelling · Old knowledge in new forms · Dreaming in the present
Outro and Forward Look
Young hosts reflect on the relationship between story, memory and lived experience.Preview Episode 5: School.
Coequal's other podcasts
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2 APR 2026 · In Part 3 Top Camp we follow Matthew's river of story into lived memory, tracing segregation, survival and the struggle for rights.
This podcast has been informed by the historical work of Aunty Noelene Briggs, and particularly her books Winanga-li and Burrul Wallaay. To find out more about Aunty Noelene's books https://www.austlit.edu.au/austlit/page/A103309?mainTabTemplate=agentWorksBy&restrictToAgent=A103309
Detailed Music Credits
"Dramatic Violin and Didgeridoo" by Studio FLG, "Another One" by Mirko Sosai, "Omen" by Richard Johnson, "Tranquility Base" by Chill Factor, "Quirky Play" by Marco Pesci, "Porch Blues" by Kevin MacLeod, "Running South" by Score Wizards, "Hurt Track 13" by Philip Okerstrom, Damian Mason and Symon Aytonn, "Slow Burn" by Kevin MacLeod, "Didgeridoo Night" by All Stars.
This podcast was made with funding from Create NSW.
A podcast from Matthew Priestley supported by Third Space Ventures and Coequal.
To contact Coequal and find out more, check out our Patreon page, https://patreon.com/Coequal
Content Description: This episode contains references to forced child removal, segregation, racism, and violence against Aboriginal people
Setting: Moves between river Country (Mehi and Gwydir), Dreaming story, lived memory of segregation in Moree, and the emergence of Stanley Village.
🪶 STRUCTURE AND CONTENT BREAKDOWN
Opening: Listening, Dreaming and Becoming Speaker: Matthew Priestley
- Matthew opens with a reflection on listening (Gunnai Binna) — urging people to be still, to hear beyond themselves.
- Frames life as “magic” and existence as part of Dreaming — not past, but ongoing.
- Positions Stanley Village as a place that holds beginning, middle and end — a site of layered meaning.
🌀 Themes introduced:
Listening as knowledge · Dreaming as present · Story as lived reality · Place as continuum.
Storytelling as Continuation of Culture Speaker: Matthew Priestley
- Reflects on becoming a storyteller through guidance of Elders.
- Frames storytelling as a modern continuation of song and dance — a vehicle for Dreaming in contemporary form.
🎙️ Themes:
Cultural continuity · Responsibility of storytelling · Old knowledge in new forms.
At the Rivers: Mehi and Gwydir Speakers: Dante, Matthew
- Matthew and Kim travel to where the Mehi and Gwydir rivers meet.
- Matthew describes the density of stories connected to the Mehi — too many to hold at once.
🌊 Themes:
River as archive · Story embedded in landscape · Overlapping knowledge systems.
Dreaming Story: The Dinewan and the Mehi River Narrator: Dante
- A drought forces animals to uncover how Dinewan (the emu) controls water.
- A small bird follows and discovers the hidden rock controlling water flow.
- When the bird attempts to replicate it, the water cannot be contained — forming the Mehi River.
🌌 Themes:
Creation through imbalance · Knowledge and consequence · Animal agency · Water as life force.
Matthew: Water, Identity and Connection Speaker: Matthew
- Describes being inseparable from the river — water as bloodline, identity, and living connection.
- Rejects ownership in favour of belonging within the system.
💧 Themes:
Relational identity · Water as kin · Embodied connection to Country.
Water, Purity and Culture Speaker: Matthew
- Extends the metaphor: humans are like water — connected but often forgetting.
- Names Aboriginal culture as the “purest” surviving system of knowledge.
✨ Themes:
Purity as continuity · Cultural endurance · Philosophical ecology.
The Great Artesian Basin and Hidden Systems Speakers: Hosts
- Explains the underground water system sustaining inland Australia.
- Highlights how Gomeroi people relied on natural springs long before colonial extraction.
- Settler use transforms water into an economic resource.
🌏 Themes:
Hidden infrastructure of life · Indigenous knowledge vs extraction · Environmental change.
Segregation at the Moree Baths Speakers: Hosts
- Aboriginal people were banned from accessing the artesian baths.
- Reinforces the contradiction: exclusion from resources on their own Country.
🏚️ Themes:
Segregation · Denial of access · Everyday racism.
Bottom Camp Becomes a Reserve Speakers: Hosts
- Bottom Camp formalised as a reserve in the late 1920s.
- Stark inequality between white staff housing and Aboriginal living conditions.
🏘️ Themes:
Institutional inequality · Spatial segregation · Infrastructure as control.
Stanley Family Movement and Fear of Removal Speakers: Hosts
- Alexander and Rachel Stanley move to the mission.
- Some families follow; others remain in camps to avoid child removal.
🪶 Themes:
Family decision-making under threat · Protection vs safety · Survival strategies.
Assimilation Policies Intensify Speakers: Hosts
- Shift from “protection” to assimilation in the 1930s.
- Continued control through new language and policy frameworks.
⚖️ Themes:
Policy evolution masking continuity · Cultural erasure · State control.
William Stanley and “Little Boy Lost” Speakers: Hosts
- William Stanley works as a tracker in a high-profile search.
- Popular retellings erase Aboriginal contribution.
- Juxtaposed with simultaneous forced removals of Aboriginal children.
🪞 Themes:
Erasure of contribution · Selective national memory · Parallel injustices.
Life Under Segregation Speaker: Medina, Valmay, Nab, Roy, Matthew and Hosts
- Shares her story: removal from family, growing up on the mission.
- Describes surveillance, restrictions, and strategies to avoid welfare officers.
- Recounts the use of passes/dog tags to enter town.
- Separate hospitals, cinemas, cemeteries.
- Social rules enforcing inferiority and control.
- Personal memory of being refused entry as a child.
- Long-term emotional impact — never returning.
🚧 Themes:
Stolen Generations · Surveillance · Everyday resistance · Lived testimony. Total system segregation · Social conditioning · Structural racism · Intergenerational trauma · Personal impact of systemic racism · Memory as evidence. Freedom Ride – 1965 Speakers: Hosts
- Student activists challenge segregation in Moree.
- Initial success overturned, followed by protest, violence, and eventual change.
🔥 Themes:
Activism · Public confrontation of racism · Youth-led change.
1967 Referendum and Housing Change Speakers: Hosts and Roy, Median and Valmay
- Referendum marks a national shift in recognition.
- New housing established — Stanley Village.
- Describes moving into Stanley Village as transformative — running water, electricity, dignity.
- A rare moment of relief and hope.
🏠 Themes:
Legal change vs lived reality · Symbolic vs material progress. Improved living conditions · Joy amid struggle · Community rebuilding.
Matthew: Story Lives in the Body Speaker: Matthew
- Explains that trauma and story are held physically.
- Healing requires moving through pain to reach deeper cultural knowledge.
🌀 Themes:
Embodied memory · Healing through truth · Story as process.
Ongoing Racism and Violence Speakers: Hosts
- Post-reform racism persists: threats, violence, intimidation.
⚠️ Themes:
Continuity of racism · Limits of reform · Community resilience.
Cheeky McIntosh Shooting and Aftermath Speakers: Roy and Hosts
- Killing of Ronald “Cheeky” McIntosh sparks community unrest.
- Media and police responses reinforce systemic bias.
🕯️ Themes:
Police violence · Grief and anger · Narrative control.
Closing Reflection Speaker: Matthew
- Acknowledges anger as a sacred force.
- Points toward another story still to be told.
💬 Themes:
Hope · Narrative choice · Continuation.
Outro and Forward Look Speakers: Khalani, Dante
- Reflect on how recent this history is.
- Preview Episode 4: School.
30 NOV 2025 · In Wirilla Ep 2: Reserve we move from Dreaming and sky-knowledge to the ground-level realities of segregation, following the creation of reserves and camps while tracing the life of Matthew’s great grandfather Alexander Stanley.
This podcast has been informed by the historical work of Aunty Noelene Briggs, and particularly her books Winanga-li and Burrul Wallaay. To find out more about Aunty Noelene's books https://www.austlit.edu.au/austlit/page/A103309?mainTabTemplate=agentWorksBy&restrictToAgent=A103309
This podcast was made with funding from Create NSW.
Detailed Music Credits
"Just Did" by All Stars, "Soundscape" by Mirko Sosai, "Omen" by Richard Johnson, "Guitarline" by Philip Okerstrom, "John as well" by Mirko Sosai, "Fred" by Fred, "Awkward Comedy" by Luca Francini, "Hurt Track 4" by Philip Okerstrom, Damian Mason and Symon Aytonn, "Tranquility Base" by Chill Factor, "Hurt Track 13" by Philip Okerstrom, Damian Mason and Symon Ayton, "Hurt Guitar Track 8" by Philip Okerstrom, Damian Mason and Symon Ayton, "Proud Return" by See More Music, Blusy G'Tar by Mirco Sosai, "Hurt Track 5 by Philip Okerstrom, Damian Mason and Symon Ayton.
A podcast from Matthew Priestley supported by Third Space Ventures and Coequal.
To contact Coequal and find out more, check out our Patreon page, https://patreon.com/Coequal
Content Description
This episode contains references to segregation, forced child removal, discriminatory laws, and the hardships faced by Aboriginal families living on reserves and in camps.
Wirilla – Episode 2: “Reserve” Duration: 23 minutes
Setting: Moves between star stories, family history, and the lived memories of the Terry Hie Hie reserve and Moree’s early camps.
Narrators/Voices:
- Matthew Priestley – Mehi Murri man (Terry Hie Hie clan, Gomeroi Nation)
- Dante – Gomeroi young person narrator and learner
- Khalani – Gomeroi young person narrator and learner
- Kim – Long-time friend of Matthew, researcher and collaborator
- Phil – Co-creator, occasional narrator
🪶 STRUCTURE AND CONTENT BREAKDOWN Opening: The Lyrebird — Sound and the Birth of Language
- Matthew opens by explaining that sound itself was created by the lyrebird, and that animals generated the first sounds — before wind had “sound.”
- He frames vibration as an original language, akin to mathematics — a structural, patterned intelligence that underpins how we communicate.
🌀 Themes introduced:
Sound as origin · Lyrebird as culture-keeper · Vibration as language · Science and story intertwined.
Opening Story: The Emu in the Sky
- introduces the Gomeroi sky story of the the Emu in the Sky, explaining how the dark spaces between stars form the celestial emu.
- The changing shape of the emu tracks the seasons — when it lies down, when it rises, and when the birds are nesting.
- teaches how the sky is a living calendar, a guide for movement, ceremony, and food gathering.
🌀 Themes introduced:
Celestial knowledge · Seasonal law · Country as teacher · Reading the sky.
Terry Hie Hie: Bora and the Calm Before Segregation
- The hosts discuss Terry Hie Hie as a major meeting and ceremonial site — one of the largest Bora grounds.
- They note the last recorded Bora at Terry Hie Hie in 1883, and how the cultural practices continued even as colonisation imposed new pressures.
🌿 Themes:
Ceremonial life · Continuity amid disruption · Record vs lived practice.
After Myall Creek: Disease, Poison, and Disrupted Songlines
- Traces the cascading impacts of massacres: disease, poisoning, food source depletion, and broken pathways/songlines that undermined traditional life.
- Explains how these pressures foreshadowed more formal systems of segregation and control.
🔥 Themes:
Cultural disruption · Environmental impacts of colonisation · Fragmentation of communal life.
Creation of the Terry Hie Hie Reserve (1895)
- The Aboriginal Protection Board set aside 102 acres for a reserve at Terry Hie Hie in 1895.
- Hosts discuss the split among white settlers — some professed “protection” motives, others openly expressed racist aims (preventing intermarriage, “protecting” the white race).
- The reserve is framed both as an imposed protection and as a tool for segregation.
🏚️ Themes:
Protection as paternalism · Segregation policy · Control of bodies and movement.
Naming, Registration, and Identity Theft
- The episode explains how births were registered by farmers or reserve managers, Aboriginal names were ignored, and white names or property names were imposed (example: “Dave Combadello”).
- This bureaucratic renaming severed cultural ties and created false official identities that complicated family histories.
🪞 Themes:
Bureaucratic erasure · Identity control · Loss of language through paperwork.
Family Story: Alexander Stanley (Matthew’s Great-Grandfather)
- The life of Alexander Stanley is traced: born 1896, worked on cattle stations, later enlisted in WWI using a falsified identity (a common tactic by Aboriginal enlistees).
- His experience illustrates the contradictions of Aboriginal service: fighting for a nation that denied rights at home.
- Alexander’s post-war life — work, relationships (meeting Rachel Munro), and railway work — ties family history into broader patterns of movement and survival.
🪶 Themes:
Personal resilience · Identity negotiation · Indigenous war service.
The Protection Act and Child Removal Practices
- The episode quotes the 1909 Aborigines Protection Act and describes how it allowed indenturing children as apprentices, controlled wages, and restricted movement — measures used to assimilate and exploit Aboriginal children.
- Hosts highlight that promised pocket money was rarely given and that children were effectively trapped in institutions or domestic servitude.
⚖️ Themes:
Legalised family separation · Exploitation under law · Institutional abuse.
Education, Exclusion and the 1899 School Case
- Tells the story of 11 Aboriginal children in Gullarganbone who were briefly admitted to public school (Feb 7–20) before being suspended due to Department pressure.
- By 1902 Aboriginal children were effectively banned from public schooling — an explicit policy of exclusion.
- The episode uses a sarcastic 1899 newspaper extract to show local sentiment and systemic racism.
📚 Themes:
Educational exclusion · Public humiliation · White anxieties about equality.
Life in Moree: Top, Middle and Bottom Camps
- Describes how displaced families set up makeshift camps in Moree: Top Camp (near Pitt family), Middle Camp (near the dump), Bottom Camp (near the cemetery).
- Living conditions: tin shacks, poor sanitation, stigma
- Council resistance to establishing a formal reserve inside the municipality is discussed, showing local hostility to Aboriginal presence.
- Matthew speaks about the importance of listening to old people and ancestors.
🏘️ Themes:
Spatial marginalisation · Community resilience · Municipal racism.
Returned Soldiers, Memorials, and Hypocrisy
- The episode recounts how returned Aboriginal servicemen were excluded from the Moree Soldiers Memorial Hall despite their service.
- Hosts quote the Hall committee’s explicit discriminatory rule banning “full blood or half caste” Aboriginal people from attending.
- This stark irony underlines the hypocrisy of national celebration built on dispossession.
🕯️ Themes:
Recognition denied · National myth vs lived reality · Moral indictment.
Reflection and Closing
- Khalani and Dante react emotionally — perplexed, angered, determined to learn more.
- Credits and thanks close the episode, with a preview: the next breath of Wirilla will focus on Top Camp.
💬 Themes:
Memory as resistance · Intergenerational responsibility · Learning as activism · Continuing the yarn.
Additional Citation: Fuller, R.S, Norris, R. P, Trudgett, M: The astronomy of the Kamilaroi and Euahlayi peoples and their neighbours in Australian Aboriginal Studies 2014/2
15 OCT 2025 · From the beginning of time to now, Matthew Priestley tells the story of his Country, his family, his mob for the sake of the generations to come.
In Part 1 Gomeroi Country we start at the beginning and then encounter invasion, massacre and colonisation.
This podcast has been informed by the historical work of Aunty Noelene Briggs, and particularly her books Winanga-li and Burrul Wallaay. To find out more about Aunty Noelene's books https://www.austlit.edu.au/austlit/page/A103309?mainTabTemplate=agentWorksBy&restrictToAgent=A103309
To contact us, support us and find out more, join us at Patreon, https://patreon.com/Coequal
Detailed Music Credits
"Track 4 (Hurt)" by Philip Okerstrom, Damian Mason and Symon Ayton, "Didgee Beat Box Mix" by Philip Okerstrom, "Didgy" by Philip Okerstrom "Quirky Play" by Marco Pesci, "Green Garden" by Score Wizards, "Track 10 (Hurt)" by Philip Okerstrom, Damian Mason and Symon Ayton, "Talismanist’s Art" by Tera Mangala, "Omen" by Richard Johnson, "Didgeridoo Long Loop" by Tera Mangala, "Track 3 (Hurt)" by Philip Okerstrom, Damian Mason and Symon Ayton, "Charmaine" by Philip Okerstrom.
This podcast was made with funding from Create NSW.
A podcast from Matthew Priestley supported by Third Space Ventures and Coequal.
Other Coequal Podcasts
for Real Made Up Stories https://podfollow.com/real-made-up-stories
for Agents for Change https://podfollow.com/agents-for-change
Content Description
This episode contains discussions of colonial violence, including detailed references to massacres and systemic dispossession of Aboriginal people
Wirilla – Episode 1: “Gomeroi Country” Duration: ~22 minutes
Setting: Recorded on Gomeroi and Dharawal Country, moving between ancient storytelling space and historical narration.
Narrators/Voices:
- Matthew Priestley – Mehi Murri man (Terry Hie Hie clan, Gomeroi Nation)
- Dante – Young Gomeroi man, co-narrator and learner
- Kim – Anglo-Saxon background, long-time friend of Matthew, teacher from Moree
- Phil – Co-creator, occasional narrator
🪶 STRUCTURE AND CONTENT BREAKDOWN Opening Invocation: The Wind
- Speaker: Matthew Priestley
- Matthew opens the episode with a poetic reflection about the wind as the source of life and communication.
- He describes the wind as magic—essential, invisible, and often unacknowledged.
- Key idea: Breath and speech come from the wind, positioning “air” as the first teacher.
- Sets a meditative, spiritual tone—listeners are drawn into Country as a living force.
🌀 Themes introduced:
Connection to Country · Breath as life · Gratitude to unseen forces · Story as wind.
Welcome and Setting
- Speaker: Dante (intro narration)
- Dante welcomes listeners to Wirilla, acknowledging Gomeroi, Dharawal, Elouera, and Wadi Wadi lands.
- Introduces Matthew and the location — the ridge called Wirilla.
- Kim describes standing on the ridge: red gums with “red bellies,” tall and narrow.
- Matthew teaches that these are Yarran trees, sacred and central to story.
🌿 Theme: Naming and language as a way of seeing; reclaiming Aboriginal place-names and meanings.
Creation Story of Baime and the Yarran Tree
- Narrator: Dante
- A Dreaming story unfolds:
- Baime creates the first humans from red earth on the ridges.
- After a drought, one man refuses to eat a kangaroo rat, walks away, dies beside a red gum.
- A Yowie appears, places him inside the hollow tree, which then rises into the sky amid thunder.
- Two cockatoos follow it upward — their flight creates the Southern Cross.
- The story marks the origin of death in the world.
🌌 Themes:
Cosmic transformation · Origins of mortality · Sky stories as moral lessons · Animal kinship.
Yarran Do and the Hidden Star
- Speaker: Matthew
- Matthew expands on the story:
- The lifted tree becomes Yarran Do.
- Hidden within is Gameeri, “the smallest star in the universe,” invisible to the naked eye.
- Knowing the story helps you never get lost on Country — signs are everywhere.
- Ends with cockatoos shrieking (“See you later”), blending story and lived moment.
✨ Themes:
Knowledge as orientation · Invisible truths · Story as navigation · Spiritual continuity.
Introductions and Reflections on Identity
- Speakers: Dante, Kim, Matthew
- Dante introduces himself as Gomeroi, living on Dharawal land, learning about his ancestry through this project.
- Kim introduces herself as Anglo-Saxon, long-time collaborator and teacher from Moree.
- Raises the question: “Australians like to think everyone gets a fair go — but is that actually true?”
- This line bridges from ancient story to modern social reflection.
🪞 Themes:
Belonging · Cultural reclamation · The myth of equality in Australia · Intercultural friendship.
Matthew on Pre-colonial Knowledge and Balance
- Speaker: Matthew
- Describes Aboriginal people as living in “subconscious mode” — deeply attuned to Country.
- Speaks of thousands of years of balance: people knowing 30–40 languages by age 11, every star, plant, and animal by kinship.
- Presents a vision of knowledge as living ecology — not ownership but relationship.
🌏 Themes:
Ancient intelligence · Linguistic richness · Embodied learning · Ecology and spirituality united.
The Land Before Colonisation
- Narrators: Dante and Kim (quoting settlers’ accounts)
- Introduces historical documentation:
- Quotes from Paul Mann (Australian Geographic, 2010) and Peter Cunningham (1827).
- Descriptions of Moree and the Liverpool Plains — fertile, lush black soil, “a green ocean.”
- Matthew comments on the abundance of the black soil and Aboriginal “preparation” of the land.
🌾 Themes:
Land stewardship · Colonial misunderstanding of Aboriginal agriculture · “Gardened” landscapes.
First Contact and Conflict
- Narrator: Dante
- The Gomeroi meet white settlers — initially peaceful, then resistance arises as land is stolen and damaged.
- Colonial law claimed Aboriginal lives had equal value, but killings were ignored and widespread.
- Introduces the notion of “a war of extermination.”
🔥 Themes:
Invasion · Resistance · Hypocrisy of colonial law · Systemic erasure.
The Myall Creek Massacre
- Narrators: Dante and Kim
- Detailed retelling of the 1838 Myall Creek Massacre:
- Wirriyarray clan working amicably with settlers are massacred by convicts and stockmen.
- The aftermath: bodies mutilated, burned.
- A rare moment of legal accountability: 11 men tried in Sydney.
- Despite a first acquittal, seven are retried and hanged after a second trial for the murder of a child.
- The story foregrounds justice and injustice intertwined.
⚖️ Themes:
Truth-telling · Justice and complicity · Silenced history · Courage of witnesses.
Aftermath and Silence
- Narrators: Dante, Kim, Phil
- Newspapers react with outrage — not at the massacre, but at the convictions.
- Darkly ironic “newspaper dialogue” shows settlers joking about poisoning Aboriginal people as a “safer technique.”
- The press goes silent after Myall Creek — killings continue unrecorded.
- Matthew reflects on the many massacre sites never documented, remembered only by Elders.
🕯️ Themes:
Cultural amnesia · Settler denial · Oral history as preservation · Grief and endurance.
Colonisation Consolidates: Protection and Control
- Narrators: Matthew, Dante, Phil
- As resistance collapses, Aboriginal people are coerced into station work.
- Gold rush changes power dynamics; landowners rely on Aboriginal labour.
- In 1883, the NSW Aboriginal Protection Board is established — its stated aim benevolent, but its practice restrictive.
- Next episode preview: the Terry Hie Hie reserve.
🏚️ Themes:
Assimilation disguised as help · Survival and adaptation · Policy and control.
Reflection and Credits
- Speakers: Phil, Dante
- Phil asks Dante what he makes of it all.
- Dante, overwhelmed: “I didn’t even know half of that… People should really know about this.”
- Credits follow, acknowledging team, sound, design, and Elders (especially Aunty Noeline Briggs).
💬 Themes:
Learning and reckoning · Intergenerational knowledge transfer · Respect for Elders · Ongoing truth-telling.
12 JUL 2025 · Reece loves directing, particularly saying "Cut!" when things go off topic, which pretty much means anything that's not about footy, which he loves. Reece's story shows how blokey sport can create space for everyone, in their own way, on their own terms.
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Detailed Music Credits
"Hurt Theme" by Philip Okerstrom and Damian Mason, "Plain Loafer", "Jarvic 8", "Bicycle" and "Fluidscape" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
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In this episode of A Good Mind To, we tell the story of Reece, a young man whose deep love for rugby league has become a bridge to connection, confidence, and community. Reece is a young man of "all-abilities" and a huge fan of the Collegians Rugby League Footbaell Club. This is the story about how the players and staff have woven Reece into the fabric of the club — not just as a supporter, but as part of the team. We hear from players, coaches, and Reece’s family and friends, including Jimmy, whose friendship with Reece helped open new doors. From shyly hanging back at training to proudly joining the team in the sheds after a win, Reece’s journey is one of growth, belonging, and joyful disruption. He brings laughter to tense moments, keeps the team focused, and never misses a chance to sing the team song. This is a story about inclusion that doesn’t feel like a lesson. With interviews, candid moments, and plenty of Reece’s humour and heart, the episode offers a beautiful glimpse into how sport can create space for everyone, in their own way, on their own terms.
2 JUN 2025 · It was early in 2022. We were still just on the tail of the Covid pandemic. We were still quite often wearing masks, often doing social distancing and still RAT testing and staying home if we got infected.
Shellharbour City Council, on the homelands of the Wadi Wadi people, decided to commission a few people in the Shellharbour community to tell some stories…
And the 5 stories they commissioned became a collection that they called We are Shellharbour.
To watch the We are Shellharbour stories as films: https://www.shellharbour.nsw.gov.au/weareshellharbour/our-people-our-stories
To connect with Coequal: https://www.coequal.com.au/a-good-mind-to
The stories in this episode were produced with funding from Shellharbour City Council.
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15 APR 2025 · Andrew reflects on repaying the East Timorese people, and reconnecting with family on his return from service.
Advisory: The people who have "a good mind to" tell you this story would like you to know there is a description of a dead body in this episode.
Andrew enlisted in the Army in 1995. He was assigned to 5th/7th Battalion, The Royal Australian Regiment in Holsworthy. The UN International Force East Timor (INTERFET) consisted mainly of Australian Defence Force members, including Andrew, and was deployed to East Timor to assist with the conflict. Andrew arrived in Dili aboard the Jervis Bay, and was met with the devastation that faced the region.
Detailed Music Credits
"All This," "Inexorable," "Consequence," "Dark Fog," "Energising," and "Light Thought var 3 "by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
"Accoustic Road" " by Music Dog and "Hawaii" " by Dimitry Khlynin HD Studio,
Thanks to Albion Park RSL Sub-Branch and Warilla RSL Sub-Branch for putting us in touch with local Veterans.
Thanks to Veterans NSW for proudly funding this project.
This podcast was created for Shellharbour Snapshots, a podcast by Shellharbour City Museum and was proudly funded by The NSW Government.
To find more Shellharbour stories visit Discover Shellhabour: https://discover.shellharbour.nsw.gov.au/
(c) Andrew Horne 2023 All Rights Reserved
15 MAR 2025 · Will Mark and Assunta get any answers from the Doctors about what happened to Mark? And what's happening now, 15 years later?.
"The Throwing of a Lead Cover over the Whole Thing" is the sixth and final episode in our series: Invisible Injury - a dissection of one man's brain injury story.
Artwork Credit: isarisariver https://www.flickr.com/photos/lescientist/8430282209, under Creative Commons licence: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/legalcode
Detailed Music Credits
"Ambient Guitar" by SF Music, "Dam Audio 01" by Damian Mason, "Waking Up" by Adi Goldstein, "New PJH" by Philip Okerstrom and Damian Mason, "Experimental Cello" by Sonicscope, "The Tension" by Music Service, "Secret Agents Mission" by Praded, "Slick and Sneaky" by Soundroll, "Reflective" by Tristan Noon, "Slow Ambient Movement" by Orchestralis, "Towards the Light" by Hyperprod, "Comic Italian" by AG Soundtrax, "Better than Us" by Nikistan, "Intro," "Intro No Drums" and "Bleaky" by Philip Okerstrom, "Daybreak" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
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20 DEC 2024 · Assunta gets us up to speed with some loose end stories.
Swimming Against the Tide is the fifth episode in our series: Invisible Injury - a dissection of one man's brain injury story.
Artwork Credit: isarisariver https://www.flickr.com/photos/lescientist/8430282209, under Creative Commons licence: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/legalcode
Detailed Music Credits
"Slow Ambient Movement" by Orchestralis, "Heartless" by Philip Okerstrom, "Moving Backwards" by AG Soundtrax, "Intro" by Philip Okerstrom, "Ambient Documentary" by Orchestralis, "Bleaky" by Philip Okerstrom, "Organic Meditations 3" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
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30 SEP 2024 · Mark and Assunta finally get some clarity about the nature of Mark's brain injury and treatment. But that doesn't make it much easier to handle.
A Cork in the Ocean is the fourth episode in our series: Invisible Injury - a dissection of one man's brain injury story.
Artwork Credit: isarisariver https://www.flickr.com/photos/lescientist/8430282209, under Creative Commons licence: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/legalcode
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Music Credits:
"Clock and the Piano" by Orchestralis, "Sad" by Szymon Piotr Wiśniewski, "Quirky Play" by Music for Media, "Light Science Comedy Documentary" by The Dapper Chap, "Loving" by Tre Houston, "Modwai" by Philip Okerstrom and Damian Mason, "Drama Sadness" by Elite Music, "Dirty Tape Loop Soundscape" by Andy Slatter and "Emotional Inspiring Piano and Cello" by Bland Trend Music.
People who’ve got a good mind to tell you something. Real stories told with people, not about them. Winner: Australian Podcast Awards: the Specialist Award… for an indie podcast, selected...
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People who’ve got a good mind to tell you something.
Real stories told with people, not about them.
Winner: Australian Podcast Awards: the Specialist Award… for an indie podcast, selected by the judges from across all award categories, that produces exceptional listening experiences for niche audiences and those underrepresented in other Australian media. Winner: Best New Podcast: The Radio Today Podcast Awards. Winner: The Arts and Media Award: Mental Health Matters Awards 2024.
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Real stories told with people, not about them.
Winner: Australian Podcast Awards: the Specialist Award… for an indie podcast, selected by the judges from across all award categories, that produces exceptional listening experiences for niche audiences and those underrepresented in other Australian media. Winner: Best New Podcast: The Radio Today Podcast Awards. Winner: The Arts and Media Award: Mental Health Matters Awards 2024.
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| Author | Coequal |
| Organization | Phillip Crawford |
| Categories | Society & Culture , Documentary , Mental Health |
| Website | www.agoodmindto.com.au |
| phil@coequal.com.au |
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