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Product for Product is a show hosted by Matt Green and Moshe Mikanovsky aimed at helping listeners navigate the growing depth of product management tools while also providing our insights...
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Product for Product is a show hosted by Matt Green and Moshe Mikanovsky aimed at helping listeners navigate the growing depth of product management tools while also providing our insights into the categories that make up the PM role. We will take listeners with us on a journey of discovery through areas of product analytics, road mapping, productivity and many others. If you want to keep up with the latest in product management come along for the ride!
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Product for Product Management
Product for Product Management
EP 111 - Session Replay Tools Kickoff with Matt & Moshe
24 JUL 2024 · It has been awhile since we produced a series focused on one product category, as we had so much fun this year with individual guests who shared with us their love for frameworks, books they wrote, and other one-off topics.
So we are excited to share a new series for our product management audience, exploring the world of Session Replay tools.In the kickoff episode, Matt and Moshe met to discuss what session replay products are, and what they are expecting to learn in this series, such as:
- What are the features of session replay tools?
- Who usually uses them?
- How did vendors start building them?
- What is the technology behind them?
- What might differentiate them?
- How does AI play a role in their progress?
- How do they play with other products in our ecosystem?
- How are results analyzed?
- What privacy and security concerns do they have to deal with?
- And more!
The products we will discuss include HotJar, FullStory, PostHog, LogRocket and more.Connect with Matt and Moshe on LinkedIn:
- http://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics
- http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky
Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.
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EP 110 - Net Adoption Threshold Framework with Anat Eldar
10 JUL 2024 · Is the MVP where we should stop at understanding whether we have a good direction to go with our product idea? Probably not.
Join us to the latest episode, where Matt and Moshe have met with Anat Eldar, Product Leadership Consultant, as she goes through her Net Adoption Threshold (NAT) framework.
Drawing from her extensive product management roles at companies such as Amdocs, Microsoft, AOL, Yahoo and Taboola, as well as from her teaching at the Reichman University, Anat had developed NAT to help product managers and organizations understand not only what the value they create, but also whether it is greater than the costs (both sunk and switching costs) and the current solution’s value.
Join us as we learn from Anat:
- How did she get to product
- What is the Net Adoption Threshold (NAT) framework
- Who is it for and how they use it
- Does it fit all types of products and situations?
- Does it work well with other frameworks or does it replace them?
- The breakdown of the NAT formula: New Solution Value - (Sunk Costs + Switching Costs) > Current Solution Value
- How do we quantify each of these?
- What is the most important thing to quantify in this process?
- Some pitfalls when startups attempt to implement the NAT framework and how to avoid them
- How often should they assess the NAT if things are changing?
- How to start adopting NAT right away
- And much more!
You can connect with Anat at:
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anateldar/
- Read more from Anat about NAT: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/rethinking-mvp-introducing-net-adoption-threshold-nat-anat-eldar-jmpef/?trackingId=LOMU933KryBRTI2n8xFHlw%3D%3D
You can find the podcast’s page, and connect with Matt and Moshe on Linkedin:
- http://linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast- linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics/ - linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics/
- http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky - linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky/
Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.
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EP 109 - Startups ‘24: Lodestone with Dennis Chow
26 JUN 2024 · This year we are changing a bit how we publish episodes about startups that build innovative products for product people. Instead of creating a series with several episodes in a row like we did in previous years, we are going to release one-of episodes, as we find and get to interview the founders of the startups.
The first Startup of 2024 is Lodestone. We have met with Dennis Chow, seasoned Product Executive, with rich experience in product management at major Canadian telecom companies Rogers and Telus, Sears, Pivotal Payments, Intuit, TouchBistro and more. An instructor at Product Faculty and advisor to startups, Dennis always looked for ways to help communicate complex product decisions into simple ways that are easily and transparently shared up and across the organization.
This was the first problem he set out to solve as founder and CEO of Lodestone, but his vision is much larger than that!
Join Matt and Moshe as we chat with Dennis and learn:
- His path to Product Management, working in chunks of 5 years (10K hours) to get great at what he does and move his career forward
- The vision of Lodestone, a Product Management toolkit that help PMs move faster and get more things done
- The sunburst roadmap, a visual roadmap tool that one one hand, helps connecting epics and stories with the strategy, and on the other hand, helps product managers tell a better story
- Other features such as feature repository, documentation generator with the help of AI - to help PMs start from something rather than a blank page
- The difference between roadmaps and release plans
- His vision for the next 5 years of Lodestone, including more value to product leaders and early stage startup founders
- How does Lodestone works with research and discovery data
- And much more!
* You can connect with Dennis at:
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chowdennis/
- Twitter: @lodestonepm
- Lodestone: http://lodestone.pm/
You can find the podcast’s page, and connect with Matt and Moshe on Linkedin:
- http://linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast- linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics/ - linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics/
- http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky - linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky/
Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.
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EP 108 - Untrapping Product Teams with David Pereira
12 JUN 2024 · We are happy to have on the podcast a returning guest, a long friend of Product for Product, David Pereira, to celebrate the publication of his first book, Untrapping Product Teams.
Following his passion to build the right things, to write, and to share his knowledge with the world, David spent the last year writing and iterating on the book, in order to make it as accessible and as relatable to everyone out there struggling in their trapped product work.
We spent a bit of time learning what David was up to since the last time we talked on the show (Episode 27, Writing & Mind Mapping to improve PM skills). Other than being busy writing the book, David became the CEO of omoqo GmbH, where he started first in the CPO position, as well as co-founding the Agile Product Manifesto.
Joins us as we learn from David:
- Why did he write the book
- Who the book is for, primarily product managers but leaders can benefit too. Even Agile coaches see lots of value in the book - they can finally talk better with product manager
- What is covered in the book and how the book is structure; first face reality asap, understand the reality, figure out how the company works, mindsets, challenges, what stands in the way. Then, untrapping, what are the ingredients needed for that such as strategy, delivery, results etc. And lastly how to remain untrapped
- Telling stories throughout the book from his experience, stories that connect with people, to help simplify the points
- Writing and developing the book as a product - starting with an experiment, converting people over, interviewing, etc
- Coordinating workflows vs Collaborative workflows
- How to earn empowerment
- How product managers deliver value via collaboration
- And much more!
You can connect with David at:
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidavpereira/
- Buy the book: https://amzn.to/3z31Ie3 (affiliate link)
- Untrapping Product Teams Newsletter: https://dpereira.substack.com/
- Website: https://www.d-pereira.com/
- Agile Product Manifesto: https://agileproductmanifesto.com/
You can find the podcast’s page, and connect with Matt and Moshe on Linkedin: -
- http://linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast- linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics/ - linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics/
- http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky - linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky/
Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.
Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
EP 107 - Product Management in IOT with Ricardo Vidal
29 MAY 2024 · Managing products that have both software and hardware is always more tricky than those with software only. In the past it was limited to servers and communication devices, and to very specialized machinery like medical devices, transportation and such. With the advancements of reduced computing chip sizes and improved speed and powers, along with cloud computing, IoT (Internet of Things) has taken our life to an entirely different level with new smart devices that can help us anywhere we are. From home devices to control things at home and provide reports of power consumption, to smart cars, and whole smart cities.For most product managers that have worked only on software digital products, it is hard to imagine what are the added complexities created with the addition of hardware development to the mix.
On this episode we met with Ricardo Vidal, Head of Product at Poppy, a Canadian company building IoT devices that provide instant, accurate HVAC performance monitoring for any indoor space, used by commercial properties and corporations to save energy costs, decarbonize buildings and keep occupants healthy.With a background in bioengineering, and then developing software solutions for the scientific community, moving into IoT was a challenge Ricardo willingly took, and he learned so many lessons building the different generations of Poppy.
Join us as we learn from Ricardo some of those lessons, and tools used by IoT product teams:
- Understanding the constraints when working in Hardware, such as; the process, time frames and when there is more pressure because of these constraints, access to materials and the supply chain, materials and manufacturing costs,
- Learn the terminology used by mechanical and electrical engineers
- Security issues that are amplified with connection from anywhere
- Specialized tools for hardware development, to manage Bill of Materials, cost of goods, change management, documentation etc.
- Connecting our IoT devices to the cloud via common Cloud APIs
- Firmware considerations for constant needed updates
- Using hardware prototypes for experimentation and A/B testing
- Grafana - real time data sensor testing to alert clients if there sensors are not working properly
- And much more!
You can connect with Riocardo at:
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rvidal/
- X: @rvidal
- Poppy: Poppy.com
You can find the podcast’s page, and connect with Matt and Moshe on Linkedin: -
- http://linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast- linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics/ - linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics/
- http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky - linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky/
Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.
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EP 106 - Break-Free with Henry Latham
15 MAY 2024 · Henry Latham is a good friend of the podcast, and we talked with him in the past on a few occasions (episode 25 - Tools for Aspiring Product Managers, episode 47 - No Code Platforms - Softr, and episode 65 New book: Product Strategy is Simple). We are happy to have Henry on the show again, introducing his new venture and program Break Free.
In recent year, Henry have identified a trend in the Product Management world, where many product people shows dissatisfaction with their career, moving from one company to the next, trying to find the best culture to work at and create impact in the world, only to be discouraged by organizational culture that didn’t empower them and the rest of the team to build meaningfully.
This is when he decided to pivot his focus into helping the product management community to create their own destiny, by helping aspiring self-employed individuals, who mainly come from the product management world (but not limited to them), to build their own micro-business from 0 to 1st sale in 48 hours.
In the episode, we talked with Henry about his pivot, and what the program, Break Free, is all about:
- Why did he make the shift/pivot from ProdMBA to build it
- The challenges of product managers out there
- Reasons, or more like excuses, that product people use to not starting a new business on the side
- The MVP that he started Break Free with
- Learnings from starting business to Product Management and vice versa
- Who is Break Free for?
- The 5 steps of the Break Free Sprint
- The importance of product managers selling their own products
- Starting small as a service that is not scalable rather than thinking big right up front and failing
- And much more!
You can connect with Henry at:
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/henrylatham/
- Break Free: http://breakfreesprints.com/
You can find the podcast’s page, and connect with Matt and Moshe on Linkedin:
- http://linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast- linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics/ - linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics/
- http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky - linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky/
Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.
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EP 105 - Product Momentum Gap with Dave Martin
1 MAY 2024 · Have your worked for a product company where the beginning was amazing - everyone were aligned towards the same goal, the product that the team built was an exact fit for the problems that it’s users had, and everything just came out nicely - but then, as the company grew, things didn’t fit as well, new features were not adopted, and overall, the feeling is that you lost the awesome momentum you had?This is what Dave Martin calls the Product Momentum Gap.
In this episode, Matt and Moshe are hosting Dave, Outcome Leadership Coach at Right to Left, veteran product leader and fractional CPO, who co-authored the book “The Product Momentum Gap: Bringing together product strategy and customer value” with our past guest Andrea Saez (episode 22), to talk about this problem, and a framework he developed to overcome it.
There are many reasons why companies fall into the Product Momentum Gap. It can be due to confirmation biases, collective bias (following the loudest person in the room), product strategy that doesn’t commit to a specific solution, amongst other reasons.Identifying the problem is the first step in moving forward to fix it. Then, using the Product VCP (Value Creation Plan) framework, developed by Dave, companies can align their strategy to an actionable plan that will eventually change users’ behavior.
Join us on the episode to learn:
- How did Dave started his career in product leadership
- The product craft vs product leadership
- What is the Product Momentum Gap
- More problems that cause companies to fall into the Product Momentum Gap
- The Product VCP framework - how to execute the strategy
- How the Product VCP was created over time and with over 50 companies
- How to handle situations where companies don’t want to take the time to stop and go through the process of defining the Product VCP
- The importance of discovery throughout the process
- And so much more
- You can connect with Dave at:
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrdavemartin/
- Buy the book: https://amzn.to/3UjerjR(affiliate link)
- Right to Left: http://www.righttoleft.io/
- Outcome Habits newsletter: http://www.outcomehabits.com/
- You can find the podcast’s page, and connect with Matt and Moshe on Linkedin:
- http://linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast- https://www.linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics/ - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics/
- http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky/
- Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.
Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
EP 104 - Forces of Change with Oz Nazilli
17 APR 2024 · Frameworks are always alluring, and especially in Product Management, where there is so much to do, and we sometimes need directions from those who have done it before us, or just organizing our work a bit better, but which framework should we choose? In this episode, Matt and Moshe met Oz Nazilli, Founder of PMF (Product Market Fit) Studio - a Toronto based studio that specializes in product strategy, discovery, and growth - to share with us his favorite framework - Forces of Change.
This is a simple framework, yet very powerful and suitable for different organization sizes, in different stages they are at. The idea behind it is for us to make sure we build something people want, and it was first introduced by Bob Moesta and Chris Spiek, who were heavily involved in the Jobs to be Done movement.
The framework can be found also as Forces of Progress, or The Progress Making Forces.Listen to the episode to learn more about:
- How Oz got into product management and building his own agency that help organizations of all size find their Product Market Fit
- How do we define Product Market Fit?
- What Forces of Change framework is all about:
- Where is it best fitted?
- How does it apply to enterprises vs startups?
- How it compares to other frameworks, or work with them
- What is usually the balance between these forces, if there is any?
- Can we prevent new problems or anxiety from happening? How do we reduce that risk?
- Any gotchas in the framework?
- And so much more!
- You can connect with Oz at:
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oznazilli/
- PMF Studio: https://www.pmfstudio.com/
- You can find the podcast’s page, and connect with Matt and Moshe on Linkedin:
- http://linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast- https://www.linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics/ - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics/
- http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky/
- Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.
Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
EP 103 - Growth Metrics with Yelena Liman
3 APR 2024 · Product Growth is one of the goals for our products once we found a Product Market Fit, but changing our mindset from finding the right solution to a problem that a specific market is facing, to growing the usage of our solution, is not always easy! To help us with this transformation, we can use several product growth frameworks.
In this episode, we speak with Yelena Liman, CEO and Founder of EmPro Consulting, who specializes in helping SaaS product executives challenged with underperforming products to identify and address root causes to improve business results. Yelena has a rich product management background, from organizations such as Intel and Amazon, where she contributed to several product growth initiatives.
On the show, Yelena helped us first understand what Product Growth is all about, how we can tell that our organization is already there, and then, which framework to use, picking from AARRR, RICE and HEART.Come and learn with us as we covered the following:
- How do businesses navigate the complexities of driving product growth in today's rapidly evolving market landscape
- What are the three metrics: AARRR, RICE, and HEART?
- Which companies can utilize each of them?
- What is each of them used for?
- How to solve biases in RICE?
- The importance of stakeholders involvement
- What is the context that we should use these models in?
- How do we know we are there, working on the right growth metrics and growing?
- How to collect data and analyze it to understand our growth and whether what we do is working?
- And so much more!
- You can connect with Yelena at:
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/yelenaliman/
- EmPro Consulting: https://www.emproconsulting.ca/
- You can find the podcast’s page, and connect with Matt and Moshe on Linkedin:
- http://linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast- https://www.linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics/ -https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics/
- http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky/
- Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.
Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
EP 102 - Gen AI Product Vision Video with Eva Gao
20 MAR 2024 · Generative AI is everywhere, and we all see the impact it creates on our life, no matter what we do. Product Management is no exception. In this episode we met with Eva Gao, Senior Product Manager at Quentic AMCS, who caught our attention when she published a post about how she built a Product Vision video using GenAI tools.
A Product Vision video is one of the best ways to convey to the entire team why we are embarking on the sometimes challenging endeavor of building new products. Done right, it can rally and inspire everyone in our organization to the same direction and goals.
When Eva managed a new product generation at Quintic, helping clients in risk management and mitigation of occupational hazards, she was facing challenges from internal stakeholders, who wanted to migrate their clients from the legacy system, but faced resistance from clients who didn’t want to make the move. This was impacting the organization as a whole, and this drove Eva into trying to effectively explain to all internal stakeholders the importance of upgrading the clients sooner than later, but she didn’t want to make it a memo or a dry presentation! Instead, Eva came up with the idea to create a funny video, using story telling and analogs from cultural references that people at the organization were already familiar with. Without a technical know-how in video production, and a very limited budget, Eva decided to utilize GenAI tools!
Join us as Eva chats with Matt and Moshe, describing in detail the steps she took to build the Product Vision video.In the episode you will learn:
- What is needed to produce such a video
- Some of the tools existing these days to help with the production of the video
- Challenges with some of the tools and technology
- What level of license do we need to use these tools
- Understanding how to “talk” with the GenAI tools - prompt engineering
- How did she communicated the message with her stakeholders
- How do we measure the success of the video and it’s message
- And so much more!
Tools that Eva used to create the Product Vision video:
- Playground AI for image generation: https://playground.ai/
- Beautiful.ai for presentations: https://www.beautiful.ai/
- Pika Art for generating 3-second videos: https://pika.art/
- invideo AI for image based long video generation + quality voice-over: https://invideo.io/
You can connect with Eva at:
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evagaode/
- Blog: https://medium.com/@starmancallin
You can find the podcast’s page, and connect with Matt and Moshe on Linkedin:
- https://www.linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast - https://www.linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcast
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics/ - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenanalytics/
- http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky - http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovsky
Note: any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.
Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Product for Product is a show hosted by Matt Green and Moshe Mikanovsky aimed at helping listeners navigate the growing depth of product management tools while also providing our insights...
show more
Product for Product is a show hosted by Matt Green and Moshe Mikanovsky aimed at helping listeners navigate the growing depth of product management tools while also providing our insights into the categories that make up the PM role. We will take listeners with us on a journey of discovery through areas of product analytics, road mapping, productivity and many others. If you want to keep up with the latest in product management come along for the ride!
Connect with us on LinkedIn:
https://linkedin.com/in/mattgr...
https://linkedin.com/in/mikano...
Connect with is on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/channe...
show less
Connect with us on LinkedIn:
https://linkedin.com/in/mattgr...
https://linkedin.com/in/mikano...
Connect with is on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/channe...
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