Despite attempts to reform self-defence laws, in practice, there are significant barriers to raising self-defence for women who have experienced domestic violence and killed their abusive partner. Transforming legal understandings of intimate partner violence, a research project conducted by ANROWS, examined homicide trials in which self-defence was raised by women who had killed an abusive intimate partner. The project explored how legal professionals and experts understand intimate partner violence (IPV), including which facts are selected and presented as relevant to understanding the homicide, the language used to frame those facts and the conclusions drawn from them. In this episode, researchers Professor Julia Tolmie (The University of Auckland) and Associate Professor Stella Tarrant (The University of Western Australia) sit down with Michele Robinson, Director, Evidence to Action (ANROWS) to discuss how the research developed, their work in the field, and key takeaways from the research report. This interview was recorded on the land of the Whadjuk Nyoongar people, the Traditional Owners of the lands and waters where Perth city is situated today. Insights: the ANROWS podcast is part of ANROWS's commitment to disseminating and supporting the application of the evidence base that addresses violence against women and their children in Australia.