Swiss climber and national team member Sofya Yokoyama comes down of the wall to chat with Doc about all things climbing. During their wide ranging and rollicking discussion, Yoko and Doc talk about heel hooks, Scarpa Dragos, hangboarding, finger strength, portaledging, Orianthi, the importance of doing difficult things, having to make do with the bronze card, and travel blankets. Tune in and you'll also hear about Sofya's journey from her first climbing wall to one of five adult females on the Swiss National Bouldering Team. You think you know climbing? You don't, but you will. Epic guest.

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