Yoga Therapist and long-time teacher Grazia Jaroff describes her introduction to Yoga Therapy in the '80s and potent comments from her interactions with Mr. Deśikachar. She and Chase dive into meditation: the importance of relationship to meditative objects and how it can open up new potentials. Grazia teaches in Davis, CA. Contact her at gjaroff@comcast.net. Download a free copy of Carrie Heeter's book, An Inside Look at Meditation, at https://www.yogawell.com/viniyoga-resources/ Join Yoga Well's Yoga for Meditation at https://www.yogawell.com/yoga-for-meditation/