With one less host this week, we decide to keep it simple and talk a short film, one of which is mostly singing and dancing. Mark and Anthony discuss Michael Jackson's Ghosts. 

Join us as we discuss Michael Jackson as a talent and as a complicated figure, Mos Def, and discuss whether MJ's dance moves were always so vulgar. 

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Our theme music was written and performed by Dave Katusa. He can be found on Instagram @dkat_productions.