Daniel Schaub is a nurse (BSN/RN) who has worked in cancer infusion centers for the better part of 10 years. In that time, he's entered into a unique form of suffering with people during one of the hardest things they will ever have to do. We discuss what cancer infusion looks like, how people often have preconceived notions of it and how they suffer while receving treatment, how he can partner with them to support them, and how he has learned to cope with the suffering he enters into. Dan is a remarkable person with a huge capacity for empathy and care; I'm better because I know him. I hope you'll enjoy this conversation.