Therapist, adventurer, and author Erik Schlimmer set Doc up on the couch for some therapy and some excellent trail talk. With 1,200 nights camped out under the stars, 2,700 peaks climbed, and 17,000 miles hiked, Erik has a lot of material to pull from. Settle in and buckle up as Erik ranges far and wide in his discussion with Doc, including talk of base weight, peak bagging, witch hobble, old school measurements, Hiker Trash math, Mother Goose, Empty Head, the Trans Adirondack Route, trail names, setting goals to combat post trail/peak depression, the naming of things, and context, lots of context. Epic.

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