In this episode of the Off The Rocks Podcast Jen and Sara chat about habits; making them, maintaining them, breaking them and ultimately replacing them with better ones.

They chat about whether they think addiction is inherent or whether it’s learnt behaviour. How fiendishly hard they found it to stop smoking. How their relationship with alcohol has radically changed over the years. And how romantic relationships can suffer when addictive tendencies are left unaddressed.

They end the episode musing that sometimes just having a little faith is all you need to get started; faith that change is possible – that you can get a grip on bad habits. In the immortal words of George Micheal: you gotta have faith-a-faith-a-faith-a! Until next Thursday, you stay classy.