Jayson Holland is a hiker, kayaker and outdoorsman. He lives and plays in Souther Illinois near the confluence of the Ohio and Tennessee Rivers, a stones through from the meeting of the Mississippi and Ohio. Jayson runs the blog lookingdownriver.com

We talk kayaking through sobriety, beauty and remoteness of Big Rivers, learning how to kayak big water, Cache River - Illinois Cypress Swamp, River to River hiking trail, and more.

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