In this episode, we discuss Grey’s Anatomy actress Ellen Pompeo’s decision to share a story of an argument that occurred between she and Academy Award winner Denzel Washington when she undermined his authority while he was a guest director in 2015. We also talk about journalist Katie Couric’s decision to retell a story of an awkward interview she had with Denzel Washington in 2004 and we discuss how it is not possible to view either of these incidents without acknowledging the history of white women using their privilege and power to subjugate and endanger black men. We also mention the struggle occurring in the Senate between Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, Sen. Joe Manchin, and other Democrats over the infrastructure bill and we give our thoughts on Season 4 of Dear White People on Netflix. For more information, visit us at http://www.nybfpodcast.com.