Today in the Confessional, Sandy chats with Lise Carlaw and Sarah Wills, also known as Those Two Girls.

After they met in their mid-30s, Lise and Sarah became a duo with a difference and blasted onto the Australian media scene in 2017. Their genuine friendship led to a national radio show, sell-out events, interviewing well known guests and eventually the launch of FORTY: the podcast equivalent of a little black book for the middle years.

Lise and Sarah have just launching their new book - Forty Favours the Brave.

Before joining forces, Lise and Sarah’s collective backgrounds included PR, communications, copywriting, modelling, and theatre.

Their book explores the questions - How can I be nearing middle age when twenty-six feels like yesterday? After the craziness of my twenties and hard work of my thirties, what’s next? Who am I now that youth is behind me?

These were the questions Lise Carlaw and Sarah Wills asked themselves as they entered a milestone decade – their forties. The second phase of life can seem daunting for some. But as we all know, it's much more than declining collagen, hormonal upheavals, and a supposed descent into invisibility. There is power in knowing who you are, ditching ‘nice’ for what’s important, and arriving at the stage in your life when you decide rather than ‘slide’.

In Forty Favours the Brave, Lise and Sarah, along with women from all walks of life, share insightful tales about entering their forties and beyond: the lessons learned, heartbreaks survived, things they wish they’d known, relationship changes, confidence gained … and the surprising, wondrous joy of life in its second act.

You can follow Those Two Girls here:

https://www.thefortyedit.com.au/
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You can listen to the Forty Podcast here:
https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/forty/id1533920893
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