I spent some time talking to Dr Liliana Rodriguez, who from now on I shall refer to as Lili, about herself, her path to this campaign and what it means to her. Its an interesting chat as she and her partner and co-designer Carlos Peralta have an incredible empathy for this project and i was interested to know why. On top of that, this was recorded in July 2018 just before the Colombia Vs England match at the Russia 2018 World Cup , and both Lili and Carlos are originally from Colombia. So it was almost fated that we would all meet up and work on this project at this time. I promised not to mention the match or the result in the interview. But we all know who won.