Hank welcomes back Dr. Paul Nelson, Senior Fellow of the Discovery Institute to continue discussing Illustra Media's new film, Origin: Design, Chance and the First Life on Earth. Hank and Dr. Nelson address why so many scientists seem to be unwilling to practice open-minded science, as well as the stakeholder mentality of those who subscribe to scientific materialism. Dr. Nelson explains why the origin of first life is so important because of its connection to us as human beings, and how the film appeals to logic and rationality by presenting the evidence and allowing viewers to use their common sense to determine the most plausible explanation for the origin of life.