In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain are joined by the soon-to-be Seahawks Ring of Honor member Mike Holmgren for the entire hour to talk about the Seahawks losing to the Saints on Monday night with Geno Smith at quarterback, the offense under Shane Waldron and the game against Jacksonville coming up on Sunday, plus talk about his upcoming honor this week including hearing and reacting to comments this morning by Brett Favre and Steve Young.