Josh is strangely more positive about England than Lee is and the lads are joined by Tony Fretwell from the RFL to chat through the differences between our two games and what they are currently learning from each other. There's also the usual SHIT/GOOD stuff and return to Wales for the Cuthbert-Plisson Cup...Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/bloodandmudrugby. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.