Lee, Josh and super special veteran legend guest Lenny Woodard talk England judo injuries, Dan Carter's not so awful "crimes" and the important difference between types of steroids before Lenny regales us with tales from his wandering two-code career. Plus there's all the usual review, ratings and a song at the end. So much in there, we're exhausted just typing it!Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/bloodandmudrugby. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.