When Gareth Southgate was sacked as Middlesbrough manager in 2009, it would have been hard to imagine that within a decade he'd be leading England into a World Cup.
Especially considering he hasn't had a club job since his Boro exit.
But the ex-Boro captain and boss has done a solid job in charge of the national side so far and is now looking to guide the Three Lions into the knockout stages - at least - in Russia.
So nine years on from his Riverside departure, how is Southgate remembered at Boro?
Should he have been appointed? Should he have been sacked? And what has he learnt since?
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