Sadly, there is only one place where we could start the latest Royal Blue podcast, hosted by Sam Carroll and also featuring Paul Wheelock and our Everton FC reporter Adam Jones - and that is the miserable Carabao Cup exit to Southampton.
Was Marco Silva's decision to make seven changes the main reason for the defeat? Or was the team he selected good enough to beat a similarly second-string Saints side?
Both questions are discussed as well as the two minor positives of an otherwise forgettable night - the performances of Bernard and Ademola Lookman.
The lads all believe Bernard should be handed his first Premier League start against Leicester City on Saturday but should Tom Davies keep his place?
The Academy graduate came in for stick on Tuesday night and Sam, Paul and Adam debate whether that's fair.
They also ponder whether the yet-to-be-seen Andre Gomes could turn out to be Silva's most important summer signing before the must-listen podcast rounds off by previewing the trip to the King Power.
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