Alun Wyn Jones is a rugby legend. As Wales captain and HUGE second row forward (he's 6ft 5ins), a big part of the Grand Slam winner's job is physically overpowering other huge men.
So, as father to two little girls, how does he switch from that tough guy persona to the big cuddly daddy he is at home?
In this exclusive chat, Alun explains to Rich and Steve why making that switch isn't as difficult as it sounds - and outlines how being a dad can actually help you lead a dressing room of international rugby players… For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy