Jay and Mark are joined Brian Raftery (@BrianRaftery on Twitter), the man who made Deep Blue Sea fans very happy in 2016, when he wrote a Wired article entitled "Forget Jaws. The Real Shark Movie to Beat is Deep Blue Sea." It might be the greatest DBS piece ever written, and it helped people realize that DBS is actually an A+B movie. In this episode, we discuss "Brothers Never Make It" the 25th chapter on the Deep Blue Sea DVD. We also talk about Howie Long, Chill Factor, and movie shadows. Enjoy!

Make sure to follow Brian on Twitter, and buy his excellent book Best. Movie. Year. Ever. How 1999 Blew Up the Big Screen wherever you buy books (buy four or five copies...why not).