Joe Marler speaks to James about his own struggles with mental health, how he has combated that, and the support available in rugby and beyond. They also reflect on their time playing rugby together as well as the umpteen times Joe has 'retired' from the sport.James’s new book Ruck Me is now available to pre-order in hardback, audiobook and ebook. Signed copies available exclusively at Waterstones.com.What a Flanker the book is out now online and in all good bookshops. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.