Turkey, under the leadership of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, is seen as one of the pioneers of the populist wave across the world. According to Dimitar Bechev, a non-resident senior fellow at the Atlantic Council and Ahval contributor, the country could also take the lead in the other way around as it approaches historic crossroads in upcoming years.

Ahval's İlhan Tanır spoke with Bechev about the latest paper he co-authored and published by SWP, which discusses the Turkish and Russian models in a context of their relations with the West and with each other.