In our latest episode of the Gerry Hutch murder trial at the Special Criminal Court, Mick O'Toole and Paul Healy discuss the latest in the case.

Paul was in court today as Jonathan Dowdall continued his testimony as a State witness, including a testy exchange where he insisted that he didn't care if he was killed.

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The series is produced by Ciaran Bradley.