On Desperately Seeking Wisdom this week, we’re doing something we haven’t done before; speaking to a guest who has already been on the podcast, the comedian Matt Forde.

We recorded Matt's first chat on the series less than a year ago and when we did Matt was about to get married. But soon after the happy day, he was diagnosed with cancer - a spine tumour that required major surgery towards the end of 2023.

That's why this week we're talking to Matt to see how he's getting on. As you’ll hear, the recovery process has been intense and there’s still a long way to go. But Matt wanted to share how he coped with the agonising pain - and what he’s learned.

This is part one of our conversation, part two is out on Thursday 14th March.

This episode is produced by Red Bicycle.