Well-known biologist and author Sy Garte, author of the new book “Science and Faith in Harmony” joins Perry. They explore the alignment between science and faith and probe purpose in biology. They discuss the challenges of applying mathematical concepts to biological systems, recognizing that EVERY rule in biology has an exception. The two discuss changing norms in academic discourse, the new journal Biocosmos and "The Unreasonable Ineffectiveness of Mathematics in the Life Sciences.” 
Sy's book: https://amzn.to/49px5MDSy's website: www.sygarte.comSy's X feed: x.com/sygarte

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