The awakening process is about giving. It will never change. Everyday it's about asking, “How can I be of service today?” It’s not to people, it’s to yourself and there’s a great joy in that. We each have a specific function that’s our way out of this world. Unless you’re that practice of giving you’re going to be contracted, you’re going to be withholding, it’s a death. That’s what dis-ease is.

Recorded Oct. 1, 2016, with Lisa Fair at La Casa de Milagros, Chapala, Mexico