Kerry Lutz and Dennis Tubbergen discussed various economic challenges and potential responses from the Federal Reserve. They explored the concept of stagflation and its potential presence in the current economic environment, as well as the need for significant budget cuts to address economic challenges. The speakers also expressed concern about the potential downturn in the housing market and the challenges facing the commercial real estate market, including high interest rate resets on loans and the exodus of companies from urban areas. They also touched on the broader implications of failing states and cities, leading to a discussion about potential secession movements and political realignment in the United States. The conversation also delved into the implications of currency devaluation and the potential impact of printing money. Tubbergen advocated for tangible assets like silver, gold, and agricultural real estate as a safeguard against currency fluctuations. The speakers also discussed the potential introduction of central bank digital currencies and the challenges of transitioning to a cashless economy. The section concluded with Tubbergen sharing information about his book and Lutz providing contact details for further inquiries. Overall, the meeting provided a comprehensive discussion of various economic challenges and potential responses, with a focus on the impact of Federal Reserve policies on the economy and financial markets. Find Dennis here: revenuesourcingbook Find Kerry here: FSN and here: inflation.cafe