My guest this week is Phillip De Wet.

Phillip is the deputy editor of the Mail and Guardian. This week we discuss South Africa’s love affair with China, why we still don’t understand China, why the ANC doesn’t buy its own rhetoric but why others do and the future of media relations in SA. It is worth noting we spoke in October just before the ANC’s NGC.

Phillip de Wet writes about politics, society, economics, weird stuff, and the areas where all of these collide.