In episode 13, Gabriel Filippelli, Chancellor’s Professor of Earth Sciences and Director, Center for Urban Health at Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis, discussed the pandemic and climate change, and what the climate movement can tell us about societal responses to systemic risks.

From tipping points to policy, from technology to anxiety, from consumption choices to communicating science, we embarked in an honest and far-ranging conversation informed by his decades as a scientist, academic and policy advisor in the US and abroad.