It's hard to prepare for the unexpected, though in healthcare, we often rely on Simulation to help us hone our skills for unexpected and high stress medical events, such as a medical code or trauma. But sometimes, the unexpected happens on such a large scale that it's almost unimaginable how we could possibly prepare. Perhaps surprisingly, Simulation can also be used in for these "disaster" situations like extreme weather, mass casualty events, school shootings, and yes, even a pandemic. Join guest host, Dr. Samreen Vora, as she interviews Ken Combs, Emergency Preparedness Program Manager, to hear stories of applying Simulation to the "extreme" of the unexpected and how partnering with simulation specialists ("simulationists") can bring a sense of realism to disaster practice.